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  Doing your own research

  by Reazon22 in

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  we all know watchtower doesn't encourage their members do research for themselves.

  can anyone point out any articles where it mentions this?

  any help would be appreciated.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  I was once told, not to Google things, but only stick to WT library or JW dot orgy. So I asked the elder, so I can't go on weather.com and check the weather? Or go to cnn.com and look up the latest news? He had nothing to say.
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  Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the

  by Lostandfound in

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  42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.

  blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.

  i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  I know this much about Heard, he must be feable minded because he gave 3 talks at our convention and and he reads everything not looking up at the audience for nothing. Even common scriptures like Matt 24:14, he reads it with out looking up.
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  Observation of Sam Heard at Regional Convention in Dayton, OH

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  heard gave 3 talks at the convention.

  one thing i noticed rather quickly was how stuck he was to his notes.

  he rarely looked up.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  Heard gave 3 talks at the convention. One thing I noticed rather quickly was how stuck he was to his notes. He rarely looked up. And then I realized that, he was actually reading everything word for word. But he was literally reading everything. He held up his notes, the audience could clearly see them. He read everything, including scriptures.

  One of his talks was in order to release a new Bible story book. So he was reciting about 4 or 5 bible stories. And you would think that he would be able to just look at the audience and recite the story right? No. He read each story word for word. Every once in a while he would loose his place, and it was on something so simple, like "So Daniel was about to....(3 seconds later... be eating by the lions, but no, Jehovah..." It was stuff like that, that got me really looking at this guy.

  He never just talks. Never, unless he cracks a joke. My first thought was, 'this guy's loosing it in his old age, so he has to give manuscript talks only'. He kept shuffling the pages, one to the other and at the end of each talk he would read things like, "Well, friends, we truly have been instructed by Jehovah...." but he would read those words and NOT look at the audience at all when he should be able to extenperaniously (spelling) speak those things. It should just come from the heart right?

  I mean, the guy has like 150 years of full time service, right? So why doesn't he have an idea of his own like all the other speakers that were before and after him. My thought, is that he's getting to the point where he's so old he can't have thoughts that just flow like that. If he gave a talk like any of the three he gave at the convention, he would be pulled aside after the school and counseled. But everybody just lapped it up. :(
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  Any dave ramsey fans here?

  by c5 in

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  hey!

  long time since i have been here.

  lots and lots of new posters.

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  I wanted to bump this thread. Reason why is that, in the "truth" I was never shown how to handle money, ever. Just work enough to get by and put all the rest toward's the organization. But Dave Ramsey is a whole lot about how to actually get ahead of things as far as money is concerned.

  I truly believe that if I would have know about the Dave Ramsey baby steps back when I first started to know about the JW's by now I would be nearly a millionaire. He really knows his stuff well. Here's a link to the baby steps video. And for all those out there that say, I don't have time or the money actually to invest, well, if you only invest $5 a month (yes, that's five dollars a month) from age 18 and then continued until age 68, you would have over $74,000 put away based on 10% earnings, even though you would have only put in $3,005.00 of your own money at $5/mo.

  I know that Simon had put out a very nice post about how JW's and ex-JW should consider putting money away for retirement. Hey, y'all, we are the ones who are awake, right? Well, let us think clearly about our potential future. Enjoy.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU7HEIs3IWw
  
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  Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

  by _Morpheus in

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  2. experiences

  had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

  i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

  im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  Gee, I can't wait, as I have an in wife that I attend with. I will end up going to all 3 days in a bit.
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  They should show this 2 minute video about 1975 at the convention

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  if only there was a way to hack in and play this.

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  If only there was a way to hack in and play this. :)

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmcA1qDHho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yKu113wrp-KhXdt-6
  
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  Is JW.org unbreakable

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i ask this question for good reason.

  let's face it, despite all the books, videos, forums, court cases, hearings, protests etc that have been exposing the society for many years.

  jw.org continues to roll on almost 'it seems' unscathed.. for example, just walk into any kingdom hall there is not so much as a whisper about anything that has been exposed outside of jw land.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  I agree with Magnum and Chook, JW's are just not the hard core people they used to be. They used to talk doctrine with people. Now they tell you to go to jw dot orgy. What a bunch of garbage.
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  My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

  by pale.emperor in

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  absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

  i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

  i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  I have noticed for myself too, that the less I do for the Watchtower the better I feel. Happy for you.
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  2017 International Regional Convention, Toronto – Entertainment at Sony Centre

  by SAHS in

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  i’ve been hearing from several very reliable sources that there will be an exclusive elite gala entertainment event hosted by the watch tower organization, featuring specially chosen jehovah’s witnesses of outstanding talent as well as spiritual reputation, at the sony centre (formerly called the o’keefe centre) in toronto, ontario (canada) as a special “after hours” addition to the 2017 special international convention.. those chosen have to meet very strict criteria, including, not so much technical and popular talents, but, rather, their spiritual maturity which can be easily and practically related to by the audience (i.e., degree of conformity – you know what i mean!).

  a notable and very well-known professional “super star” from some other country (i don’t know which one) who has achieved highly recognized and popular talent was surprisingly not chosen to participate in the extra entertainment program, whereas other performers with rather ho-hum musical abilities ended up being selected, ostensibly for their altruistic and “theocratic” qualities.

  (something tells me that there is going to be some jealousy and indignant, hard feelings over this rather authoritarian, arbitrary selection process.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  Well, Watchtower is totally main stream Christians now, complete with their own band and singers and everything. All they have to do now to make them totally like Christendom is have a snipet of this during the program and walla, there you have it.

  What a bunch of shit.
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  What "Rules" Did The Elders In Your KH Make?

  by minimus in

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  some congregations were known as liberal and others were considered very conservative.

  back in the 1970s a nearby congregation made all speakers who gave public talks a white shirt to wear.

  if a speaker came in wearing anything but white they were brought into the library and were given a white shirt!

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  LevelThePlayingField

  In our hall, they put the words to the songs on the screen. The CO came and said they can't do that because of copy right issue. So the elders just stopped displaying them until after the first of this year when then society put it's own version out.

  I asked one of the elder, what copy right issue? How could we violate our own copy right? We are using it to sing Kingdum songs so why is that an issue with the GB? He just looked at me and said that's what the CO said to do. I responded back, yeah, but does that make it right? What actual harm is that doing to anyone by singing kingdom songs in the Kingdom hall? I said this in front of a bunch of other witnesses. He had a look of "how dare you".

  In the JW world, they mistake a free thinker to be a non humble person. I will not drink the effen cool aid.