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  2015-12-28--Insurance!

  by Atlantis in

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  2015-12-28 liability insuranceclick the green download button.http://fileflyer.com/view/mazfoac.wtunderground!

  (if fileflyer locks up this time i will just have to find another hosting site.

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  Just a note. Do you ever think the GB will drop the phrase, "best wishes", and just leave it as Warm Christian love? Wouldn't that cover it all in itself anyway? Right? What do you need the best wishes for? Does Jehovah approve of wishes?
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  2015-12-28--Insurance!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015-12-28 liability insuranceclick the green download button.http://fileflyer.com/view/mazfoac.wtunderground!

  (if fileflyer locks up this time i will just have to find another hosting site.

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  LevelThePlayingField

  Thanks Wifibandit and Atlantis. I was able to read Wifi's.
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  Chaos at Brooklyn Bethel 12/2016

  by James Jack in

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  2. scandals

  this was how it was described to me yesterday by a brother who has been there for some 40 years.

  "everyone is about gone; the governing body is set to leave within 2 months; the kitchen and laundry personnel are gone and i have to fend for myself now.".

  "also the aggravation of 4 to 5 business men in suits with clipboards daily checking out the watchtower properties.

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  Wow, you're right. That video was about a year ago. Maybe the next video will be a little different.
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  The jw.org billions

  by Gorbatchov in

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  it is still strange, that an organization, lead by a group of old timers, is gaining billions at the moment, without giving any transparency and accountancy feedback, because these men "trust each other", and come away with that.. they got the property investment by the use of cohi associates, and deposit their liquid assets at the caymans.. it is clear: the real power behind the jw.org facade is securing his future.. don't get me wrong, i'm not insane, but more and more i got this strong gut feeling that some governmental organization has the real power.. gorby.

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  Whenever really big money is waved around, such as a billion dollars or so, people may think so. Don't get me wrong, Gorby, I'm not trying to discredit you, nor saying you are completely wrong. What I am saying is that, what they had originally invested in way back is now worth way more, like a billion dollars worth. And the notion of the seven cashing in on that even has me looking at myself in the mirror and saying what are they going to do with all this money?

  It just seems unfair that anyone should have such a "winfall". But it's their's and they know it. Bought and paid for. Now if they were transparent about things, like other religions and showed their books, we could see the trouble and say, ok, now I know why you are asking for donations.

  But when they play the secrets all the time, it just plays into the imaginations of the people all day long. And the press and the businessman of the Brooklyn area have taken notice of this as well. There was a recent post about this. I think it said something about how the JW's should donate $50 million dollars back into the local Brooklyn community for all the years of tax free status that the JW's enjoyed, and the if they don't then they are leaving without giving back anything.

  So I hear you loud and clear I think. Something still stinks in Brooklyn. Those guys will never fess up to it all. And I think they are dumb. The GB are not really running the show as far as the money distribution is concerned. But they have a team of experts doing that at their beck and call, I think.

  I have said this in another thread a few weeks back. When they do finally sell their billion dollars in Brooklyn, probably next year, that is 2017, WHAT they do months after that will really be a tell tale. Will they mention in the magazines about sending out way more missionaries back into the field BECAUSE of a money flow? Will they now say they have more money available now for X, Y & Z? My guess is that they will not. And that is because as an org they never have.
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  The story of my exit

  by mrsObfuscate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.

  i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .

  my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.

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  I read your whole story. Wonderful! I just knew when I saw the ARC on YouTube that it would wake people up. And here you come along! You made my day. And you're so young. You have your whole life and the life of your children a head of you. Congrats to your whole family.

  May you and your family really go far. Well, this makes the looks of 2016 look pretty bright for you. Go get 'em!

  
  
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  Predictions for 2016

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  2. beliefs

  so, it's that time of year again.

  here's a few of my predictions.

  ) no armageddon.

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  park ave boy - your post is as funny as hell. LOL! Awesome.
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  Writing my Disassociation letter

  by Bebopin in

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  2. experiences

  today i am working on writing my disassociation letter.

  i successfully faded a year ago.

  but i feel like i can't keep looking over my shoulder anymore i just need to be completely rid of this cult.. any suggestions on letter and it's content?.

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  Just make sure that you really think this through. Remember they all will shun you for good. Compare that feeling against the feeling you have of "always having to look over your shoulder" and people nagging you about the meetings. It may seem nice to be "free" but free is really a state of mind. Because you are already free. The people who go to the Kingdom Hall and are believers in what the Governing Body says are not free. But you don't believe all that now already. So you are already free. So, can you live with yourself and just be able to simply and politely turn down the requests to go to the hall?

  Think about. How different would it really be than if you never were a witness? They would be asking you to go to the hall just like they are now, right? Right. So if you never were a witness, never had that belief system, then you could just simply say no thank you and move on with your day. Well, you are actually in a very similar situation now. Maybe show up to the Memorial, just like a worldly person does annually, to make the family happy, and you're good for another year. And you get to keep all the friends that YOU like. And all the JW snobs that you don't, forget them. Just like in the world.

  So keep the best of both worlds, if you choose to. Just something to consider.
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  Another conversation with my father

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is a conversation i had with my father when a short article on the pope came up on tv.. joe= you know i think this pope will do good things for the catholic church.

  he's trying to get greater financial transparency not only for his organisation but also for religious institutions in general.

  i mean the guy even chooses to drive around in a very modest car to save a dollar.. father= true.

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  Charlie Brown= "Good grief!"

  But seriously. We all saw the logic here. As I was reading your dialog I was thinking, that's the org for real. But your father with his JW glasses on saw nothing unfortunately. Keep trying.
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  ultimatum stop the practice of shunning or lose your charity status.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just curious what would wt do if a government said reform your policy on shunning or you will lose your charity status.

  we will also be monitoring your reforms and there will be consequences if not brought up to our standards.

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  They would plead to the rank and file for their prayers as they battle it out in the world court. And if they lost, well, then, if you think they are digital now, boy, let me tell you, hey grandma and grandpa, get up to speed. It's time to buy an ipad. And I mean yesterday.

  They would go all digital. I think they would stop printing the WT and Awake completely worldwide and tell all the JW's that they are still printing it, it's just digital now. And when you're in service you can place those magazines by telling them to go to JW.Org, and if they say they will, then you can count that as a placement.

  I think everything would go that way, digital that is. They would completely, worldwide cease all printing. I think they would probably for nostalgic reasons and for some simply printing needs keep one of their paid-off printers running.

  The cart witnessing would also cease. The GB would have a letter written that says effective immediately please place the rest of your inventory of your witnessing carts books and then we will have to wait and see what Jehovah has in store for the future. They would keep lamenting about how the preaching work is still moving forward now more than ever and that this may be an indication of Jehovah's direction because nobody really reads the newspaper or paperback much anymore. Everybody's digital.

  And guess what? Yep, the JW's would eat it up like Thanksgiving dinner.

  And I think if they did that, they might, just might keep afloat.
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  Three very dangerous men escaped from a high security prison in Argentina because guard, a JW, had no guns

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  if you want to read up on the background of this, read this first:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/triple_crimethe convicts of this crime escaped from a high security prison in argentina because the guard, a jw, had no guns.here are the news sites that mention this:http://www.infobae.com/2015/12/28/1779500-fuga-los-hermanos-lanatta-el-guardia-del-porton-la-carcel-no-tenia-armas-porque-es-testigo-jehovahttp://www.perfil.com/politica/uno-de-los-guardiacarcelos-a-cargo-de-la-fuga-de-los-lanatta-no-usaba-armas-por-ser-testigo-de-jehova-20151228-0051.htmlhttp://www.diariolaprovinciasj.com/elpais/2015/12/29/datos-insolitos-fuga-hermanos-lanatta-schillaci-43690.htmlhttp://www.elintransigente.com/argentina/2015/12/28/triple-crimen-insolita-justificacion-guardiacarcel-arma-360553.htmli am copying part of the article and translating to english:triple crimen: la insolita justificacion del guardiacarcel sin armatriple crime: the unbelievable justification of the prison guard without a weapon.

  los hermanos lanatta y schilacci se fugaron del penal de alvear sin mayores resistenciasthe lanatta brothers and schilacci escaped from the alvear prison without major resistancebuenos aires.- pasan las horas y cada vez aparecen argumentos increibles para las serias medidas de seguridad que supone un penal de maxima detencion.

  ahora se filtro la insolita justificacion delguardiacarcel reducido por los condenados por eltriple crimen, los hermanos lanatta y victor schilacci, para fugarse de la carcel: no tenia armas porque es testigo de jeova y la religion le impide la portacion de las mismas.

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  I would love to see the English article, or even part of it, thanks.