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  NWT 1984 vs NWT 2013

  by Tallon in

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  i recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.

  the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.

  micah 6:8.

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  I did a check at: http://biblehub.com/interlinear/micah/6.htm

  It says, "And humbly covenant loyalty and to love justly to do" for that part of the verse.
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  SBF very good points. I never thought of the point you made that nearly all of their new propaganda comes in the electronic form, so it's very hard to monetize this. Most JW's only think to donate for actual paper books and literature. But at the conventions now they don't even do that. They just say get it on jw.borg.

  Too bad for them.
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  AE Investigates JWs May-2018 - Videos 1 to 4

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://youtu.be/67xtusrbqze.

  ...part 2: https://youtu.be/zimrxxku-ak.

  ...part 3: https://youtu.be/kw6b6ncd-eu.

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  They're all blocked because of copyright.
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  Red Lion Child Abuse Video-English!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now i can't remember who it was that asked for this.

  that's what iget for being an old timer.

  more coffee!red lion child abuse videohttps://we.tl/ymlxgoapntatlantis!.

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  Thank you Atlantis! And the video is in good HD. These stories are happening a lot. And it's always the same story. The JW is scared to go to the police because the elders tell them not to. Always.
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  Help me spread the word. Local TV station looking for abuse survivors willing to share story. Deep South Texas area

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  you all may recall a recent news article i posted.

  it was about a bus driver who abused several school children.

  while the news never really dived into his personal life, i did mention here that he is a well known elder to the hall i used to attend.. two new charges have been brought against him and now the bail is up to $420,000.

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  It seems like these JW child abuse news stories are coming out weekly.
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  In 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the Memorial and 52,465 partook. (Proclaimers book page 717). According to the Bible Teach book on page 78, it says, “Since the days of the apostles, God has been selecting faithful Christians in order to complete the number 144,000”. So using that logic that since the days of the apostles till now, there can only be 144,000 max then, according to Acts 2:41 at Pentecost, “about 3000 people were added”. And Acts 4:4 says, “many of those who had listened to the speech believed, and the number of the men became about 5,000”. So that’s 8,000 just with in the first few years of the apostles.

  So, 144,000 minus the 52,465 who partook in 1935 brings us to 91,535.

  The 91,535 minus the 8,000 from the first few years of the apostles = 83,535.

  Of those alive in 1935 who partook, let’s say they were all 10 years of age or older. So then, if everyone who partook in 1935 was only 10 years old, they would be 82 years old now. But the far majority were much older. So nearly all of those who partook in 1935 are now dead.

  In 2017 there were 18,564 partakers. In fashion with JW theology, let’s just count half of them. That’s 9,282. So, the remaining 83,535 minus those currently partaking 9,282 = 74,253. That’s over half of the 144,000 taken up already.

  That leaves only 74,253 total people who could have accepted Christ and became Christians since the days of the apostles. From the year 34 C.E. to 2017 is 1,983 years. That equates to only 37 people earthwide per year who became Christians since the days of the apostles until 2017.

  There were about 200 million people alive on earth in the first century. Using the equation of an equal amount converting per year, that’s 37 people being converted to Christianity per year. That would mean of the 200 million people alive in the first century only 370 people would find Christ during the next 10 years. This doesn’t make any sense, when there were 8,000 who converted around Pentecost of 33 C.E. alone.

  Let’s say that was a one time thing, and that after that only and only a tiny fraction of just 1% of that number became believers every year. That would be 80 being added per year, and that’s not counting, as the Bible says, the many who were being added daily. 80 per year for 1,986 years is 158,880. Add that to the 74,253 already spoken for and you have 233,133. And that’s saying that from 33 C.E. onward, the number of those who become Christians will be down by 99% of the Biblical accounts.

  (200 million alive in 1st century. Source:)

  http://www.businessinsider.com/what-life-was-like-in-the-first-century-2011-11

  (John 12:42) All the same, many even of the rulers actually put faith in him, but they would not acknowledge him because of the Pharisees, so that they would not be expelled from the synagogue;

  (Acts 2:41) 41 So those who gladly accepted his word were baptized, and on that day about 3,000 people were added.

  (Acts 5:14) 14 More than that, believers in the Lord kept on being added, great numbers both of men and of women.

  (Acts 6:7) 7 Consequently, the word of God continued to spread, and the number of the disciples kept multiplying very much in Jerusalem; and a large crowd of priests began to be obedient to the faith.

  (Acts 2:47) 47 praising God and finding favor with all the people. At the same time Jehovah continued to add to them daily those being saved.

  (Acts 11:21) Furthermore, the hand of Jehovah was with them, and a great number became believers and turned to the Lord.

  (Acts 11:24) 24 for he was a good man and full of holy spirit and faith. And a considerable crowd was added to the Lord.
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  CO asked for everyone 20 years old & younger for a group photo

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a co visit in ohio a couple weeks ago.

  when he was finishing up his sunday talk he said that he would like if "all the children that are from this congregation, not if you're just visiting, but from this congregation to come on up on the stage right after the meeting because i want to get a picture of you.".

  i thought to myself, why?

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  Ok, well, many of you have given your feedback as to perhaps why the CO has taken pictures of the young ones. At any rate, and for hope in the best, maybe it's just an innocent thing. I hope so anyways. Thanks.
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  CO asked for everyone 20 years old & younger for a group photo

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a co visit in ohio a couple weeks ago.

  when he was finishing up his sunday talk he said that he would like if "all the children that are from this congregation, not if you're just visiting, but from this congregation to come on up on the stage right after the meeting because i want to get a picture of you.".

  i thought to myself, why?

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  There was a CO visit in Ohio a couple weeks ago. When he was finishing up his Sunday talk he said that he would like if "all the children that are from this congregation, not if you're just visiting, but from this congregation to come on up on the stage right after the meeting because I want to get a picture of you."

  I thought to myself, WHY? Why would he want a picture of everyone who is 20 and younger?

  Has anyone else had this happen in their hall? What could he possibly want with it?

  Bizarre.
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  Dog peeing on a literature cart

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  look at the dogs face, i can't stop laughing at this!!

  and he's peeing right into the holder part of the literature, so they are going to have manually wash that out haha.

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  I've fallen off my chair rolling in the laughter. Now that's all your fault. Darn that Dog.
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  Older Watchtowers and Awakes added on jw.org Online library

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .

  why?

  lol.

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  If WT ever did actually change some of the things from the past online to make it seem like they never said that, I bet you the average JW would believe only what's on line, even if you showed it to them in print.

  Or they would say, yeah, but they HAD to change it because that's old light now, or that was the old understanding, so that's why they've updated the new one.

  WTF!