Posts by cookiemaster

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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?

by cookiemaster in

a few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.

you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.

a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.

cookiemaster

Wow guys, this discussion just exploded in a good way. So many ideas and replies. I wish I could answer all of you but unfortunately I don't have the time.

Mr. Flipper I have to say that I agree with most of your ideas. Mr. Apog I only agree with some of your ideas, nevertheless you make sense. I too wondered that if this is all a conspiracy, then when would one get initiated into the con. It's most likely that most of the upper management of the borg still somewhat believes that they work for god's organization, just in their own corporate, profit oriented way. Just as some medieval popes used to poison and assasinate their rivals while also believeing in god it's possible that this also is the case with the WT. Nevertheless, I can't help but wonder where does the money from just the past 20 years went. Even if they just had a few hundred million a year in profit, that would still amount to billions. Not to take into account the recent real estate sold in Brooklyn for a bilion. So does all that money just lay around. Who uses it ?

And yes we're speculating, but we're doing so based on everything we know so far about this corporation, which impacted our lives so greatly. I'll always wish to find out the real truth about how the borg really works. We, all ordinary members, never got an insight of the inner workings of WT. Also, since they're a cult that uses mind control (this is undisputable, so much evidence), that uses specific words only known by the members of the cult to maintain control and a we vs. the world mentality, do you think they have people that are proficient in psychology to help them maintain that control ? It's not like you create a brain washing cult without actually meaning to do so.

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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?

by cookiemaster in

a few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.

you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.

a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.

cookiemaster

Extremely interesting replies. For those of you that believe they don't make that kind of money please take into account that the donations stack up to 300 million plus a year, and they financial investments even in small countries go into the tens of millions. In the late 90's they had between 250-300 million in investments just in the US. Now, those investment money should be in the billions. They also have a strong presence in powerful economies such as Germany, Japan and UK. It's also impossible not to notice the trend of selling real estate right and then moving to cheaper areas and repeating the cycle (at least that's what they do in my country). Of course, they financial power is almost nothing compared to mainstream religions with billions of members, such as Catholicism. Nevertheless, they financial power should not be underestimated.

Apognophos - I understand that but I'm also sure that someone is in charge. In order to keep such a large corporation existing and profitable, you have to make extensive leadership plans in advance.

Some of you had very interesting ideas regarding the legal, printing and finance departments. I think that's an alley worth exploring in order to learn more about how the borg really works.

Zeb - Bitcoins are a crypto currency that can only be used in the online mediums. It offers a good degree of anonymity which made it popular with a lot of people, including drug dealers, assassins and so on. It's extremely volatile compared to traditional currencies. There's no one really in control of it. Even you could manufacture one if you'd have enough computing power, which was easier in the beggining but not it has become extremely hard and unproffitable. It's creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, designed it in such a way so that there will be a limited number of bitcoins. Transactions are relatively anonymous. Bitcoins can be exchanged for goods and services and even cash in some places. I see it as the currency of the future, a future in which no government will be in control of it.

BudBayView- Exactly, what is their motivation ? Are they just Christian fanatics who are completely delusional ? Or they're a organized corporation with profit being it's sole purpose ?

LoisLane - (I love your name) My thoughts exactly. The GB are just front men, and who knows how far does the influence of this organization go, or what they are involved into.

NonJwSpouse - Well, your theory does sound a little like a big conspiracy, but when you think about it, it's exactly what this organization really is. It would seem plausible that bloodless medicine to be part of their end game. If it would be achieved, they would get their hands on tens of billions and then could brag to the borg sheep of how Jehovah helped this discovery.

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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?

by cookiemaster in

a few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.

you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.

a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.

cookiemaster

A few days ago I posted my estimations about how much the WT actually makes a year. You guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info. A good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year. If that's the case, my next question is if the governing body members are really the masters of the 7 million worldwide slaves that support this billion dollars collosus or if they're just puppets in the hands of someone else.

The answer to this question is important to me because the ones who control this organization also control the fate of the millions of members which follow blindly, among which my family and friends. Imagine if one day the media would reveal that the anointed slave was just a corporate puppet, if this information would flood all electronic mediums, how many would leave ? how many would at least put to question and scrutiny the authority of the slave ? That's why I ask myself who really controls this profitable cult that has impacted my life so much and what are their intentions with it ?

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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.

as regards pursuing higher education?

the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.

cookiemaster

Okay, I just want to make clear that I was kidding when I said I might kick his ass. Other than the college thing, I'm exemplary in the cong, about to become an MS actually, and I plan to find a smart way to get myself and my family out. I have no problem playing their game and beating them at it. In the past years I've gathered enough leverage on them, enough to become untouchable to any disfellowshipping treat. Nevertheless, in my situation going out loudly is not the smart way so I have to be careful and not kick the ass of any CO, lol.

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How much money do you think WT actually makes a year ?

by cookiemaster in

i know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from brooklyn.

i also saw somewhere that only the uk branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio.

my cousin worked personally for a guy in italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a jw, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million euros(probably as a way to wash his sins).

cookiemaster

I know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from Brooklyn. I also saw somewhere that only the UK branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio. My cousin worked personally for a guy in Italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a JW, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million Euros(probably as a way to wash his sins). Moreover, I've noticed a pattern here in my country, where they either get properties for free from dying JW's, or buy them for next to nothing in wildly growing cities and then sell them for a few hundred grand each.

I've also calculated that if, at over 7 million members, each member donates at least 1 dollar per week, they'll have more than 7 million just from donations. That amounts to 336 million dollars a year. I know a lot of members don't donate anything, or some live in Africa and are very poor, but there are others that offset that imbalance but donating a lot. I personally knew old JW's that donated houses, life savings and much more. In my cong., about each week 100 dollars are raised from donations. Taking into account the 300 million plus donations, stock investments and real estate profit, how much profit do you think these governing body fat pricks actually make in a year ?

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Does God read Shakespeare? "to be or not to be, that is THE QUESTION?--"

by prologos in

other equally flippant questions on the subject:.

"who created the creator?".

"who designed the designer?".

cookiemaster

I don't know if you're familiar with Terminator but I've always regarded this question similarly to the John Connor paradox. The leader of the human resistance, John Connor, sends a soldier named Kyle Reese to 1986 to save Sarah Connor. Sarah Connor has sex with Kyle Reese and gives birth to John Connor in 1986. He grows up to be the leader of the human resistance and send Kyle Reese (his father) back to 1986 to save his mother and impregnate her. So in a way John Connor is like god, he has no beggining because he himself is the cause of his beggining. These are the kind of paradoxes that time travel creates but can also be applied to the concept of god.

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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.

as regards pursuing higher education?

the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.

cookiemaster

You're telling me about it. I'm basically regarded as the spawn of Satan for going to college by almost everyone in my cong. A few months ago even the CO started to directly pressure me saying that I'm such a smart guy and I would serve Jokehovah better if I would abandon higher education and enroll to Bethhell. I politely declined but he said that by the next visit he hopes I'll make the right call and join their forces at Beth-hell. I now have to find a reason to refuse him again. If he keeps pressuring me I might kick his ass.

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You put your right foot in...you put your left foot out...

by hokeypokey in

enjoying the commentary on this board and up at night doing some research.

coming to grips with my new reality.

- hokey pokey.

cookiemaster

I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I'm not married but my parents, relatives, friends, pretty much everyone are JW's. I decided to take everything very slowly. I already see some of them beggining to quietly question some of the more stupid things promoted by WT. Our quest is long but totally worth it. I hope that eventually I will help get out as many as possible. I've started to stop believing the WT crap a few years ago. I think the more you educate yourself about what the WT really is the better it will be. Even though we were taught to think that JW's being a cult is completely ridiculous, in time you will notice more and more how true it is. This will empower you to make better decisions.

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Experiences: CAA needs to emotionally vomit... catharsis... release ... etc.

by confusedandalone in

ok, so i have been on this journey for about a year or so.

i feel like i am no longer a part of this whacked out religion, however at the same time after spending so many years in it there have been a huge array of things that have happened to me that i feel i need to talk about.

not because they will help anyone who reads them, not because they are the slightest bit interesting, but because i can no longer keep them bottled up and expect to move on.. alot of things i have experienced hurt me deeply... although i was able to move forward with my life these things tend to hang around in my mind because i have never been able to tell anyone outside of my wife.

cookiemaster

Confusedandalone I read some of your stories here and they're very entertaining, but this one is by far the best. And here I tought I was naughty getting a handjob at a district convention but you, you got a blowjob just a few hundred yards away from JW Vatican. You sir are my hero !

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What is your weirdest field service experience ?

by cookiemaster in

mine just popped in my head and i just had to share it.

a few years ago i went with a special pioneer(and elder) at one of his studies who was a cow herder in the mountains.

obviously, even though we were going to the middle of nowhere, where no one lived, we just had to go all dressed up in nice suits and all.

cookiemaster

Wow, a lot of stories involving perverts, lol. The one with the baby in the oven and the man with the cross are funny as well.

3rdgen Me in the yearbook would be hilarious as I've donne pretty much every single thing the JW's forbid, lol.