Thank you Mr. Flipper ! It's been an honor ! I wish I could have engaged in this topic more but unfortunately I didn't have the time. Nevertheless, I think it's great we had so much engagement and exchanged so many ideas. Thank you all !
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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?
by cookiemaster ina few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.
you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.
a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.
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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?
by cookiemaster ina few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.
you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.
a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.
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Thank you Mr. Flipper ! It's been an honor ! I wish I could have engaged in this topic more but unfortunately I didn't have the time. Nevertheless, I think it's great we had so much engagement and exchanged so many ideas. Thank you all !
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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?
by cookiemaster ina few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.
you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.
a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.
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Again, I have to declare myself very impressed with the level of engagement in this discussion from many of you. My. Apog and Mr. Phizzy you got some good ideas but I relate the most with Mr. Flipper. I do agree there's no secret initiation into the upper management but I also don't think the GB members are as believing in themselves as they appear to be. They're probably not atheists, but they're also probably somewhat realizing the reality of what they are. So much power can corrupt anyone so why wouldn't it corupt them. I don't think they believe their own doctrines, unless they're all senile.
It's shocking how little transparency this organization has. Most of us spent years, and even decades in it and we still know so little about the inner workings of the upper management, especially concerning money. The reason I started this post wondering what their plans for the future are, is because I'm concerned how the future decisions of whomever is in charge will affect my family who are still blindly following the WT. I just fear they would ask of regular JW's something really stupid that would engager they're well being, more than usual. It sounds crazy but so is refusing a life saving blood transfusion and taking the decision to willingly die, just to follow their blood doctrine.
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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?
by cookiemaster ina few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.
you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.
a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.
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Wow guys, this discussion just exploded in a good way. So many ideas and replies. I wish I could answer all of you but unfortunately I don't have the time.
Mr. Flipper I have to say that I agree with most of your ideas. Mr. Apog I only agree with some of your ideas, nevertheless you make sense. I too wondered that if this is all a conspiracy, then when would one get initiated into the con. It's most likely that most of the upper management of the borg still somewhat believes that they work for god's organization, just in their own corporate, profit oriented way. Just as some medieval popes used to poison and assasinate their rivals while also believeing in god it's possible that this also is the case with the WT. Nevertheless, I can't help but wonder where does the money from just the past 20 years went. Even if they just had a few hundred million a year in profit, that would still amount to billions. Not to take into account the recent real estate sold in Brooklyn for a bilion. So does all that money just lay around. Who uses it ?
And yes we're speculating, but we're doing so based on everything we know so far about this corporation, which impacted our lives so greatly. I'll always wish to find out the real truth about how the borg really works. We, all ordinary members, never got an insight of the inner workings of WT. Also, since they're a cult that uses mind control (this is undisputable, so much evidence), that uses specific words only known by the members of the cult to maintain control and a we vs. the world mentality, do you think they have people that are proficient in psychology to help them maintain that control ? It's not like you create a brain washing cult without actually meaning to do so.
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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?
by cookiemaster ina few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.
you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.
a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.
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Extremely interesting replies. For those of you that believe they don't make that kind of money please take into account that the donations stack up to 300 million plus a year, and they financial investments even in small countries go into the tens of millions. In the late 90's they had between 250-300 million in investments just in the US. Now, those investment money should be in the billions. They also have a strong presence in powerful economies such as Germany, Japan and UK. It's also impossible not to notice the trend of selling real estate right and then moving to cheaper areas and repeating the cycle (at least that's what they do in my country). Of course, they financial power is almost nothing compared to mainstream religions with billions of members, such as Catholicism. Nevertheless, they financial power should not be underestimated.
Apognophos - I understand that but I'm also sure that someone is in charge. In order to keep such a large corporation existing and profitable, you have to make extensive leadership plans in advance.
Some of you had very interesting ideas regarding the legal, printing and finance departments. I think that's an alley worth exploring in order to learn more about how the borg really works.
Zeb - Bitcoins are a crypto currency that can only be used in the online mediums. It offers a good degree of anonymity which made it popular with a lot of people, including drug dealers, assassins and so on. It's extremely volatile compared to traditional currencies. There's no one really in control of it. Even you could manufacture one if you'd have enough computing power, which was easier in the beggining but not it has become extremely hard and unproffitable. It's creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, designed it in such a way so that there will be a limited number of bitcoins. Transactions are relatively anonymous. Bitcoins can be exchanged for goods and services and even cash in some places. I see it as the currency of the future, a future in which no government will be in control of it.
BudBayView- Exactly, what is their motivation ? Are they just Christian fanatics who are completely delusional ? Or they're a organized corporation with profit being it's sole purpose ?
LoisLane - (I love your name) My thoughts exactly. The GB are just front men, and who knows how far does the influence of this organization go, or what they are involved into.
NonJwSpouse - Well, your theory does sound a little like a big conspiracy, but when you think about it, it's exactly what this organization really is. It would seem plausible that bloodless medicine to be part of their end game. If it would be achieved, they would get their hands on tens of billions and then could brag to the borg sheep of how Jehovah helped this discovery.
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Who are the real WT puppet masters ?
by cookiemaster ina few days ago i posted my estimations about how much the wt actually makes a year.
you guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info.
a good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year.
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A few days ago I posted my estimations about how much the WT actually makes a year. You guys were all really helpful and provided a lot of useful info. A good estimate would be 2-3 billion dollars a year. If that's the case, my next question is if the governing body members are really the masters of the 7 million worldwide slaves that support this billion dollars collosus or if they're just puppets in the hands of someone else.
The answer to this question is important to me because the ones who control this organization also control the fate of the millions of members which follow blindly, among which my family and friends. Imagine if one day the media would reveal that the anointed slave was just a corporate puppet, if this information would flood all electronic mediums, how many would leave ? how many would at least put to question and scrutiny the authority of the slave ? That's why I ask myself who really controls this profitable cult that has impacted my life so much and what are their intentions with it ?
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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Okay, I just want to make clear that I was kidding when I said I might kick his ass. Other than the college thing, I'm exemplary in the cong, about to become an MS actually, and I plan to find a smart way to get myself and my family out. I have no problem playing their game and beating them at it. In the past years I've gathered enough leverage on them, enough to become untouchable to any disfellowshipping treat. Nevertheless, in my situation going out loudly is not the smart way so I have to be careful and not kick the ass of any CO, lol.
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How much money do you think WT actually makes a year ?
by cookiemaster ini know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from brooklyn.
i also saw somewhere that only the uk branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio.
my cousin worked personally for a guy in italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a jw, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million euros(probably as a way to wash his sins).
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I know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from Brooklyn. I also saw somewhere that only the UK branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio. My cousin worked personally for a guy in Italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a JW, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million Euros(probably as a way to wash his sins). Moreover, I've noticed a pattern here in my country, where they either get properties for free from dying JW's, or buy them for next to nothing in wildly growing cities and then sell them for a few hundred grand each.
I've also calculated that if, at over 7 million members, each member donates at least 1 dollar per week, they'll have more than 7 million just from donations. That amounts to 336 million dollars a year. I know a lot of members don't donate anything, or some live in Africa and are very poor, but there are others that offset that imbalance but donating a lot. I personally knew old JW's that donated houses, life savings and much more. In my cong., about each week 100 dollars are raised from donations. Taking into account the 300 million plus donations, stock investments and real estate profit, how much profit do you think these governing body fat pricks actually make in a year ?
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Does God read Shakespeare? "to be or not to be, that is THE QUESTION?--"
by prologos inother equally flippant questions on the subject:.
"who created the creator?".
"who designed the designer?".
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I don't know if you're familiar with Terminator but I've always regarded this question similarly to the John Connor paradox. The leader of the human resistance, John Connor, sends a soldier named Kyle Reese to 1986 to save Sarah Connor. Sarah Connor has sex with Kyle Reese and gives birth to John Connor in 1986. He grows up to be the leader of the human resistance and send Kyle Reese (his father) back to 1986 to save his mother and impregnate her. So in a way John Connor is like god, he has no beggining because he himself is the cause of his beggining. These are the kind of paradoxes that time travel creates but can also be applied to the concept of god.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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You're telling me about it. I'm basically regarded as the spawn of Satan for going to college by almost everyone in my cong. A few months ago even the CO started to directly pressure me saying that I'm such a smart guy and I would serve Jokehovah better if I would abandon higher education and enroll to Bethhell. I politely declined but he said that by the next visit he hopes I'll make the right call and join their forces at Beth-hell. I now have to find a reason to refuse him again. If he keeps pressuring me I might kick his ass.