Posts by cookiemaster

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Would you do this to your kids? Is this cold or am I crazy?

by BU2B in

my mentally in jw wife is trying to organize a "princess party" for my 4 year old daughter and her little cousins and friends.

she was looking at prices of a tent for the backyard party in case it rains.

she asked the hardware store how much and they said 90 dollars for the day.

cookiemaster

Asking your daughter rent money for an object she wants to use (especially for a party of your granddaughter ) is seriously lame.

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Deductive Reasoning - Topic "God is Evil / unjust / unloving / etc"

by objectivetruth in

the mosaic law says that an adulter will be put to death leviticus 20:10 "if a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.".

david was under the mosaic law & david was a murderer and adulterer.

2 samuel 11:4 "so david sent messengers and took her, and she came to him, and he lay with her.

cookiemaster

-ObjectiveTruth There is a website called Evil Bible. It rounds up all the sick shit going on in the bible and puts things in perspective nicely. Look it up.

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My three days of hell summary - Part Two

by cookiemaster in

okay guys, i wish i could have posted this earlier, but unfortunately, i didn't have the time.

anyway, as i've told you in my previous post, thursday, before reacting the convention site we visited a family of "apostates" from a group which separated itselft from the borg but is still doing the same dumb old shit the borg did many decades ago.

anyway, now let's talk about the convention in itself.

cookiemaster

Tresdecu, Apognophos - Thanks guys! Mr. Apog you got it right. The family we were hosted by, were only supposed to have their convention three weeks after us.

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My three days of hell summary - Part Two

by cookiemaster in

okay guys, i wish i could have posted this earlier, but unfortunately, i didn't have the time.

anyway, as i've told you in my previous post, thursday, before reacting the convention site we visited a family of "apostates" from a group which separated itselft from the borg but is still doing the same dumb old shit the borg did many decades ago.

anyway, now let's talk about the convention in itself.

cookiemaster

Okay guys, I wish I could have posted this earlier, but unfortunately, I didn't have the time. Anyway, as I've told you in my previous post, Thursday, before reacting the convention site we visited a family of "apostates" from a group which separated itselft from the borg but is still doing the same dumb old shit the borg did many decades ago. Anyway, now let's talk about the convention in itself. I can't remember much about the convention because I spent every single moment sitting next to a friend who doesn't buy the bullshit either. So during the entire convention we just sat there and just made fun of the hilariously ridiculous things the speakers were saying. Right from the start I've immediately noticed some things different from last year. Now we had a roof on the outside too (I wonder how the cheap bastard decided to finally invest the money in such a thing) but it was still pretty bad. Also, compared to last year, they've placed a screen outside too.

While in previous year we just had the convention title displayed on the big screen/s and on the stage, now we had the title with some picture of Anthony Morris The Turd and some other GB members. It looks like they're seriously pushing themselves more and more on the front covers of anything JW and creating more of a personality cult. On Friday there was a big speech about the fact that it's been 100 years since 1914, 100 years of the wonderful reign of Jesus. They compared Satan's world acomplishments with those of Jesus' kingdom. One hilarious statement that remained in my mind sounded something like: "Sure when it comes to technology Satan's world has acomplished many great things in the past century, but, they're NOTHING compared to the things acomplished by the followers of Jesus. Acomplishements like The Photodrama of Creation and the JW.Org website." This is when I burst out loud in laughter and had to pretend I was coughing just not get kicked out.

I mean seriously? Diseases have been eradicated, we perfected car and air travel, electrification, people have been into space, computing boomed, the internet, television, radio, immensely better healthcare, nuclear power, advanced architecture, robotics, etc - but this is NOTHING compared to a photodrama and a website. This is the most ridiculous thing said at this convention. Around the same time as this ridiculous talk there was also shown a short clip with a montage of the most awful things in the world (which is Satan's world, of course) and contrasted with a montage of a JW paradise utopia, all with emotional music on the background. Almost everyone started crying. It was both ridiculous and creepy at the same time. It was such obvious emotional manipulation but they fell for it in an instant.

Then there was the afternoon drama. Three in total this year. The Friday afternoon drama has about a guy taking a personal loan from a brother who was a bank manager(wonder how we got that job without a college degree). Of course they eventually argue, there's a lot of stupid bickering going on and everything works out fine in the end. It was uninspiring, barely had a plot and seemed to bore everyone. As it's customary in Romania, instead of going to a hotel like normal people, we were hosted by a family of brothers who live nearby the convention hall. So, at the end of the day, when finally the torture ended and we got to their house, we had the pleasure to be invited to attend with them their regular Friday meeting at the hall. Of course the pious members of my family were overjoyed by the invitation, and me being the driver had no excuse and had to attend. So oh joy, spending almost 12 hours of brainwashing in a single way. Anyway, there were also some good things about this convention, things I'll tell you about in a future post.

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My three days of hell summary - Part I

by cookiemaster in

well guys, i finally got back from the dc or whatever it's called nowadays.

it wasn't really as bad as i expected but still, it was pretty bad.

the first interesting thing happened on the road.

cookiemaster

Thank you everyone for the information. Honestly, I didn't really know any of these things about these other group. JW's here have always been so paranoid toward apostates that even the mere mention of them would get a harsh reaction. They're a completely taboo topic and every dub is led to believe that the other group is was created by Satan and directed by him to attack and destroy us. They can be very ridiculous.

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My three days of hell summary - Part I

by cookiemaster in

well guys, i finally got back from the dc or whatever it's called nowadays.

it wasn't really as bad as i expected but still, it was pretty bad.

the first interesting thing happened on the road.

cookiemaster

Well guys, I finally got back from the DC or whatever it's called nowadays. It wasn't really as bad as I expected but still, it was pretty bad. The first interesting thing happened on the road. On Thursday we left for the DC. It was a four and a half hour drive. An old JW(quite a nutter) family friend came with us. He told us to stop in a small town to visit a friend. Only before parking at his house he told us his friend and his wife one are of "the ones behind" (rough translation of the term used by JW's in Romania to describe a different faction of JW's that are the result of a schism that took place decades ago).

"The ones behind" is a group deemed as highly dangerous apostates by JW's here in Romania. Of course we aren't allowed to talk to them or have any other interaction. As tornapart asked in the previous post, I'll detail something about them. They're considered old rite JW's. For some exact reasons unknown to me, during the communist era, many decades ago(around 1975 I suspect), one of the leaders of the underground bethel operating in this country went rogue and took a significant part of the JW membership with them. They refuse any new literature from the WT and just recycle old doctrines from the old rags to create their own literature. After the fall of communism, sometime in the 90's there was a huge special convention where their leader(now very old) was officially welcomed back to the borg. He went on the stage and held a talk during which he cried repenting for the mistake he made with the schism and urging everyone that followed him to return as JW's.

Many followed him and now, 20 years later, they are only a few thousand. Pretty low compared with the 40 000 JW's in this country. They're much more traditional and refuse to dance and their women wear something on their head when in service, meetings, etc. Generally, they act like JW's, go in field service, meetings, conventions. Only, there's a huge level of mutual hostility and we aren't evem allowed to speak about them. That's why I know so little. Prior to last week I never met one and nobody would talk to me about them. They're like Voldemort from Harry Potter, even mentioning them is not allowed. They are the ones we must not even speak of.

So we park next to the house. The woman apostate comes to us and invites inside. My mother refuses to even leave the car. She insists saying it would be an insult not to. Eventually my parents cave in and go inside along with the other JW. My father was pretty chill but my mother was acting almost like she was afraid. They sat us down at a table and offered us food and drinks. While eating my mother kept whispering to me, "we're so getting disfellowshipped for this". I told her to chill and stop acting weird, they're just people like us. Then we started talking with the apostate lady and found out that both her and her husband were dying from cancer. Her father, who was living with them being very old and disabled, was one of "the ones behind" also.

This made my mother kinda feel bad for them and started being friendlier. The two of them talked and she eventually learned that the apostate lady was actually secretly studying with a group of JW's, with "the ones behind" knowing. Combining this with the fact that she was never a JW but born in the rival branch organization and my mother didn't even consider her an apostate anymore. We left with my parents in a good mood after becoming friends with this "apostate" family. Of course, none of us said a word about it since.

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Getting really for three days in hell

by cookiemaster in

hey guys, there's another thing i wanted to share with you.

i know this topic has been discussed over and over again, but it's just so fun to complain about it.

we're going to the district convention this weekend.

cookiemaster

Jeannette - Thank you for your nice words.

Witness My Fury - I can't put my foot down at the moment because pretty much everyone in my family are JW's, from my parents to second cousins, to many close friends, everyone is a JW. Actually, I have four close friends also JW's who don't believe a word of it, but are still in for the same reasons. Funny thing is, we kind formed a group of unbelievers at my hall. We're all in our 20's. It's like a support group. We all know it's bull, we all make fun of the moronic doctrines, we can break pretty much every rule and we don't get involved in any "spiritual" activity. Most of us report between 1-3 hours of field circus. We also know many young people like us around the district. At conventions there's at least 40-50 of us. My plan is to continue fading, help the people close to me continue in their current fading trend and then leave althogether. The elder's here wouldn't give a crap even if you didn't come to the hall for six months, so there's a good change my plan might succeed.

Frazzled - Well, you got the continent right, lol. Actually the country is Romania, the region Transylvania, you know the legendary home of vampires and stuff like that. It's generally pretty mountainous but out of hundreds of better places, they chose the absolute worst location to build the convention hall in. ( I hope this info doesn't give away who I am to any stalking elders of CO's).

BU2B - That's a brilliant idea! Why didn't I ever think of it? It'll just bring some whisky and sip through a straw like you do. Man, that would make things better!

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Getting really for three days in hell

by cookiemaster in

hey guys, there's another thing i wanted to share with you.

i know this topic has been discussed over and over again, but it's just so fun to complain about it.

we're going to the district convention this weekend.

cookiemaster

Yadda Yadda2 - Hahah, please forgive universal guardian of spelling ! I have a couple of excuses. I have a form of dyslexia, it was 2 AM and English is my second language, so don't pick on me.

The rest - I have to go because of my family. I can't make up an excusse because I'm the only one with a driver's license and that thing is in the middle of nowhere. There aren't even any busses that go there. So I have to drive them. It won't be all bad as I expect to meet an old highschool friend (also a JW and not buying the bullshit), and we'll spend the entire convention sitting next to each other and making fun of all the stupid shit the speakers say, making fun of cult propaganda and other forms of WT ridiculousness. At least I won't have to go through it alone. But if he won't come, then it will really be hell.

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I got my mother to say animals evolved !

by cookiemaster in

i wanted to share with you guys the argument i had today with my mother.

i've been away last week in a far away city for my college exams.

i've been staying at a friend, a jw who, just like me, is actually an atheist and doesn't believe a word the wt says and knows it's a bullshit cult but because of his family and friends he still stays in.

cookiemaster

@Bob_NC Hahah, exactly! How can this be? This invalides the WT utopia of a paradise were we cuddle with tigers and lions. Did Jehovah create animals whose entire existence is centered around violence? That doesn't seem very loving of him. Did they change on their own? If they evolved this way then what's to say that not every creature has evolved and the theory of evolution is correct? The questions go on and on and either way you take it, the WT utopian propaganda doesn't seem to make sense, even to dubs.

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Getting really for three days in hell

by cookiemaster in

hey guys, there's another thing i wanted to share with you.

i know this topic has been discussed over and over again, but it's just so fun to complain about it.

we're going to the district convention this weekend.

cookiemaster

Hey guys, there's another thing I wanted to share with you. I know this topic has been discussed over and over again, but it's just so fun to complain about it. We're going to the district convention this weekend. It's three days in absolute hell (to be pronounced at the site: "blessing from Jehovah"). A convention hall placed in a field in the middle of nowhere (gives of all huge cult compound vibe). Located in the absolute hottest region of the country. At this time often registering temperatures of around 40 degrees Celsius in the shade. But there is no shade, as during the summer is being held on the outside, so more would fit at one event. Event though the circumscription raised more than 10 million euros for the recently built assembly hall, they weren't able to install a sort of roof on the outside for some peculiar reason.

You feel your blood boiling in your head. Old people are fainting. The ambulance has come almost every time these last two years since the damn thing was built. You get sun burns. The benches are small and made of metal. They are terribly uncomfotable to sit in for hours on end without moving, plus without shade they get so warm you could fry eggs on them. The convention hall (or what the hell you call this pit of hell) is far, far away from any large congregation. Most have to travel hundreds of miles and are having a hard time to find accomodations in the small town relatively nearby.

There's only one commercial stand you can buy stuff from, coincidentally owned by a JW. Cars get deadly hot in the shadeless parking lot. There aren't any trees. Some sick and elderly are allowed to enter the hall but the entrace is guarded fiercely by individuals tasked with keeping the order(not sure what's they're called in English speaking countries). They don't start the AC system in the hall because that would cost money. They just open all windows and door but that doesn't do anything in a building filled with hundreds of people when outside it's deadly hot. The speakers are the same boring dubs every year. I regularly sleep at conventions sitting on my ass on that hard metal bench, even though everyone is giving me dirty looks. The only upside of last year was the presence of a few incredibly hot young women. Other than that, uncomfortable, endangering, boring, cult propaganda, filled with old people, smelly, time wasting, not to mention incredibly expensive, three day hell. Is it the same for you?