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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

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  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  Blondie - That's nice. I didn't know you had such a program in the US. We have many third world migrants, as of late, here in Europe, but there are no classes to teach them (not in my country, at least).They either baptized them as they are (illiterate) or the brother/sister they're studying with teach them how to read. I have to commend you for your work. Education is one of the best things we can give to people.
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

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  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  Blondie and the rest that raised the issue of being able to read, this might not be a thing you hear in America or whatever western country you're from, there's this thing called illiteracy and you don't actually need to know how to read to be a JW. There are lots of people in poor countries that didn't have the chance to get an education and don't know how to read.Some of these are JW's. I've known some myself. So, she doesn't need to know how to read. The problem is with understanding, not reading. At 5, you can't even cross the street by yourself (or shouldn't be allowed), so how the hell do they think you can make such a huge decision? It's their double standard crap. I've seen 7 year olds get baptized. The story might not be bullshit, but their teachings on this matter sure are. What a filthy hypocrisy to practice when you claim to follow Jesus' example of baptism, and then baptize five year olds. And, they can't motivate this by saying the Armageddon is coming. Didn't they used to say children are saved by the virtue of their parents? Certainly this extends well into the age of teenagehood. So, they're basically admitting to child abuse.
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  Seems very easy to leave now, why do people hesitate?

  by Xanthippe in

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  when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .

  no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.

  still people find it so hard to leave.

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  cookiemaster

  I don't know how anyone could say it's easy to leave. It isn't! It's easy to see through the bullshit. It's easier to find TTAT. It's easier to acquire knowledge, to recognize you're in a cult, etc. But it is NOT easier to leave. It's just as hard and for one reason. Family (this includes close friends). You can't just turn your back on family. You can't abandon and betray them by leaving them alone in the hands of a psychopathic corporation.
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  Lett and his instruction in KMS

  by JWdaughter in

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  ok, l know i am not the first to notice or likely comment on this, but as little as i respect commenting on persons, i am going to do it now.. lett seems like a charicature.

  he is so strange-i cringe when i watch him speak.its as ifhe was once given advice to speak slowly and clearly and now he just talks like a cartoon.

  he creeps me out.

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  cookiemaster

  To me he seems like a retard. All that fake enthusiasm in him. A true caricature of a man.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  Quick update. They haven't disfellowshipped him. They decided to ban him from giving public prayers and provide answers during meetings. But, they have disfellowshipped another guy from the congregation. One of the kindest people I know. Anyway, he's quite in a good mood and not mad at my mother at all.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  He's not mean because of his liver getting destroyed by alcohol. It's just who he is. I know about the laws against animal abuse, but we live in a remote mountain area and I kinda know personally the people that must deal with this sort of thing, and they will not give a crap about a dog. There are must bigger problems to solve, like poaching and stuff. As for me and my mom, I plan to find her a new place to live, as well as for me, after I finish college.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  Giordano - I think he suffers from a psychiatric disorder, but refuses to get help. The local authorities don't take animal cruelty too seriously.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  cookiemaster

  We're in Europe, so there's no guns. Since I grabbed him by the neck, he has chilled out, mostly. He only hit my mother a few times in their marriage, but they argued constantly for the past 20 years or so. What I can't stand is his animal abuse. His aggression towards both pets and farm animals has been a constant reason for conflict in our family. Disfellowshipping him would only make things worse, as he'd be more resentful of my mother. He often shouts at us to go away, but there's nowhere to go as my mother's family it's all be out of touch for decades due to her being a JW. She refuses to leave him anyway. I'm hoping that if I show more aggression towards him when he misbehaves, he'll improve his behavior. The man's in his 60's by now, so it's not like he could actually take me down in a fight. Anyway, I hope things improve. He's been awfully quiet since I almost beat him last time.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  cookiemaster

  This has nothing to do with my Facebook endeavors. When the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father. My mother called them about him. He got drunk a few times. I have no problem with that, because I don't care. However, he does beat the shit out of animals. My mother fed a stray dog last autumn and when he saw her, he ran with a baseball bat to hit the dog. My mother tried to stop him and he tackled her and gave her a few slaps.

  I was at college at the time but when I found out I was so furious I wanted to beat the shit out of him. Anyway, my mother wouldn't allow me to do that because she said seeing something like that it would kill her, as she has a heart condition. A few weeks ago, he kicked my mother's pregnant cat, almost killing her. I shouted at him "What the hell are you doing?! Killing the cat?!". He approached me and threw a punch. I grabbed him by the neck and lifted him from the ground. My mother immediately got between us and cried until we stopped fighting.
  

  We haven't spoken to each other since. I hate the guy. He abused my mother and countless animals all his life. When she called the elders, I thought it might be a good thing for them. That they might talk him into chilling out a bit, to stop hitting animals. She also told them about his drinking, but that's irrelevant to me as he's not violent when drunk. Now, they called him tomorrow for a judicial committee. Will they disfellowship my father?

  I wouldn't want that, because he'd blame my mother that would make things so much worse. I wouldn't even be able to leave home, out of fear that he might retaliate on her. I never knew the idiots would react so seriously. I thought my mother would just tell them about the fighting and they'd scold him for that, but no they took it to the next level. What do you think will happen? Can I threaten them with a lawsuit to prevent them from disfellowshipping him? Don't get me wrong, I want my parents to leave this cult, but not like this.
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  I want to take them down

  by cookiemaster in

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  hey guys!

  some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

  i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

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  cookiemaster

  Boeing, thanks for that link. I never knew such services existed. It's awesome!