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  THIS IS WHAT WITNESSING HAS BEEN REDUCED TO IN 2015

  by steve2 in

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  threads on the newer jw face of public "witnessing" have shared in common the astonishment that jws safely park themselves behind their literature trolleys and exercise incredibly little contact with passersby.

  whether the poster is talking about europe or the united states or australia, descriptions here are the same.. literature stands are protective sheilds behind which jws huddle, talking to each other, sipping on their espressos, whilst the disinterested world passes by.

  neither the jws nor the passersby catch each others eyes.

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  freemindfade - Exactly like that.
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  THIS IS WHAT WITNESSING HAS BEEN REDUCED TO IN 2015

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  threads on the newer jw face of public "witnessing" have shared in common the astonishment that jws safely park themselves behind their literature trolleys and exercise incredibly little contact with passersby.

  whether the poster is talking about europe or the united states or australia, descriptions here are the same.. literature stands are protective sheilds behind which jws huddle, talking to each other, sipping on their espressos, whilst the disinterested world passes by.

  neither the jws nor the passersby catch each others eyes.

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  Believe it or not, a brother here in Romania actually has his own commercial stand in a nearby market and he places a JW cart next to it, and apparently talks to interested people while selling his own products. And he counts the time. And the elders congratulate him for that. God damn, if this is witnessing, it has really gone down the toilet. The dude basically does what he would do anyway as part of his business, but attaches a JW cart and he's suddenly a pioneer. People can pull hours out of thin air nowadays.
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

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  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  Blondie - That's nice. I didn't know you had such a program in the US. We have many third world migrants, as of late, here in Europe, but there are no classes to teach them (not in my country, at least).They either baptized them as they are (illiterate) or the brother/sister they're studying with teach them how to read. I have to commend you for your work. Education is one of the best things we can give to people.
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

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  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  Blondie and the rest that raised the issue of being able to read, this might not be a thing you hear in America or whatever western country you're from, there's this thing called illiteracy and you don't actually need to know how to read to be a JW. There are lots of people in poor countries that didn't have the chance to get an education and don't know how to read.Some of these are JW's. I've known some myself. So, she doesn't need to know how to read. The problem is with understanding, not reading. At 5, you can't even cross the street by yourself (or shouldn't be allowed), so how the hell do they think you can make such a huge decision? It's their double standard crap. I've seen 7 year olds get baptized. The story might not be bullshit, but their teachings on this matter sure are. What a filthy hypocrisy to practice when you claim to follow Jesus' example of baptism, and then baptize five year olds. And, they can't motivate this by saying the Armageddon is coming. Didn't they used to say children are saved by the virtue of their parents? Certainly this extends well into the age of teenagehood. So, they're basically admitting to child abuse.
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  Seems very easy to leave now, why do people hesitate?

  by Xanthippe in

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  when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .

  no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.

  still people find it so hard to leave.

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  I don't know how anyone could say it's easy to leave. It isn't! It's easy to see through the bullshit. It's easier to find TTAT. It's easier to acquire knowledge, to recognize you're in a cult, etc. But it is NOT easier to leave. It's just as hard and for one reason. Family (this includes close friends). You can't just turn your back on family. You can't abandon and betray them by leaving them alone in the hands of a psychopathic corporation.
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  Lett and his instruction in KMS

  by JWdaughter in

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  ok, l know i am not the first to notice or likely comment on this, but as little as i respect commenting on persons, i am going to do it now.. lett seems like a charicature.

  he is so strange-i cringe when i watch him speak.its as ifhe was once given advice to speak slowly and clearly and now he just talks like a cartoon.

  he creeps me out.

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  To me he seems like a retard. All that fake enthusiasm in him. A true caricature of a man.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  Quick update. They haven't disfellowshipped him. They decided to ban him from giving public prayers and provide answers during meetings. But, they have disfellowshipped another guy from the congregation. One of the kindest people I know. Anyway, he's quite in a good mood and not mad at my mother at all.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

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  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  He's not mean because of his liver getting destroyed by alcohol. It's just who he is. I know about the laws against animal abuse, but we live in a remote mountain area and I kinda know personally the people that must deal with this sort of thing, and they will not give a crap about a dog. There are must bigger problems to solve, like poaching and stuff. As for me and my mom, I plan to find her a new place to live, as well as for me, after I finish college.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  Giordano - I think he suffers from a psychiatric disorder, but refuses to get help. The local authorities don't take animal cruelty too seriously.
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  Can they disfellowship my father?

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.

  when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.

  my mother called them about him.

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  cookiemaster

  We're in Europe, so there's no guns. Since I grabbed him by the neck, he has chilled out, mostly. He only hit my mother a few times in their marriage, but they argued constantly for the past 20 years or so. What I can't stand is his animal abuse. His aggression towards both pets and farm animals has been a constant reason for conflict in our family. Disfellowshipping him would only make things worse, as he'd be more resentful of my mother. He often shouts at us to go away, but there's nowhere to go as my mother's family it's all be out of touch for decades due to her being a JW. She refuses to leave him anyway. I'm hoping that if I show more aggression towards him when he misbehaves, he'll improve his behavior. The man's in his 60's by now, so it's not like he could actually take me down in a fight. Anyway, I hope things improve. He's been awfully quiet since I almost beat him last time.