Posts by cookiemaster

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Something odd about how Watchtower portrays prayer versus how JWs actually pray.

by Island Man in

watchtower literature often depicts individuals praying with their hands clasped together or kneeling on the ground in their bedroom.. but i don't recall ever seeing a jw praying like that.

i have never seen a jw praying in a kneeling position or with hands clasped together.

have you?.

cookiemaster

Wow, I didn't know that such great difference exists. Most of you are probably North Americans. Here in Romania almost everyone prays with their hands clasped. Nobody kneals though. It's also not uncommon to see spouses or other family members holding hands during prayer.

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JWs nearly killed my mother

by cookiemaster in

the past week has been hell for me.

my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

cookiemaster

That's an excellent idea Bonsai. Thank you for it! I'll make sure their conversation is recorded.

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JWs nearly killed my mother

by cookiemaster in

the past week has been hell for me.

my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

cookiemaster

Sorry for not being able to reply earlier. My mother just arrived home from the hospital. She is feeling better than ever and is back to normal life. The doctors found she has pernicious anemia, which can be easily treated and held under control with regular vitamin B12 shots. Our non-JW nurse neighbor is administering the treatment. All is going well so far. The elders called today about meeting her. I think they want to disfellowship her or something. But she says she's prepared for that. She told me that she knows what to say to them and is not afraid of the consequences. She told me that she doesn't care about the judgement of men. She believes only a higher being can do that. I'm suggesting her books to read, that might help wake her up. Thank you everyone so much about your kind words and support! Know that yet another person is going against the governing body's teachings.

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JWs nearly killed my mother

by cookiemaster in

the past week has been hell for me.

my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

cookiemaster

Thanks Steve for your kind words. I was lucky enough that I was the one who's number the doctors had (not my father's) and that other JWs weren't there. If they were, I don't know I could have convinced her. She could be dead right now. She told me to call the committee for refusing blood (or whatever they're called), the elders, my father, her JW friends. I refused to do that. It was just me and her, talking it out. I told her to think of me too, not just at what they think, or what God thinks of her. She wanted to live so bad, but her brainwashing was preventing her from signing the paper. It was like an inner struggle was going on inside her. A fight between the desire to live and the cult's brainwashing. Fortunately, she chose life. I don't think I've ever been through such a tense moment in my life. I knew that my ability to persuade her about going against cult brainwashing was her only hope at life. I hope I'll never have to go through that again.

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JWs nearly killed my mother

by cookiemaster in

the past week has been hell for me.

my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

cookiemaster

Thank you everyone for your kind words! My mother has already let every JW that contacted her that she had a blood transfusion. She didn't even seem that sad about it. Just said she hopes Jehovah will forgive her. She also let everyone she knows that the JWs were going to let her die. Called that elder who said she was our problem and gave him a scolding too. She's quite pissed at the "brothers and sisters". They all seemed to take her possible death extremely casually and didn't really offer any support. I guess that shows who her true friends are. I hope this was an eye opening experience for her on the nature of this cult. Hopefully she'll recover and all will end well. Needless to say that those elders are any other JWs are not welcome even in the vicinity of my house. Few people realize how dangerous this cult can be. My mother left her family when she was 20 for the JWs. She spent her entire youth as a pioneer in the communist regime, risking imprisonment and abuse. She then was disfellowshipped for two years after standing up to unjust elders that abused everyone. Then, after being reinstated, she pioneered again. She put her entire hope in them. Because of them, she has no pension and relies on me financially. She sacrificed her entire life for them and lost everything. The only thing she had left was her life, and they wanted to take that too. This should truly make the news, as Mrs. Flipper said. So that everyone in the world will know just to what how dangerous and life ruining this cult can be.

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JWs nearly killed my mother

by cookiemaster in

the past week has been hell for me.

my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

cookiemaster

The past week has been hell for me. My mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance. We live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away. They took her in for tests and I left for home, thinking that it probably wasn't anything too serious. It turns out she had an extremely severe anemia, with a hemoglobin level of 4.2.

They transferred her to another hospital to receive emergency medical care. Clearly, the only effective treatment was having blood transfusions. Of course, she denied. I didn't even know that at the time. She didn't call me first but an elder who immediately took my father and went to the hospital to make her give a statement that she will refuse any blood transfusion. Eventually, I found out the next day. She said there are other alternatives available, like erythropoietin. The problem was the hospital didn't have any and procuring it and using it for treatment was expensive. I told her to take the transfusion. She refused.

I told my father to talk to the elders to help us financially to procure any substance or treatment that would help her. I thought maybe the congregation could donate money for her. Three elders came to the house the next day and read us some bible verses stating that one should care for their family and told us that it's not their responsibility to help. They said the organization's policy is not to help those in need of medical assistance because that's the job of their family and that they're sure Jokehova will offer us some of his magic help from the sky.

Of course, I was very pissed at these shitheads. Not only did they convince my mother to sign away her life, but now they wouldn't even help finding other ways to save her. I went to visit her at the hospital and told her all about it. A few hours later I got a call from her doctor. She said my mother was dying and that I should come to the hospital immediately. In a few minutes I was there. She was having severe tachycardia and the doctor said her heart was failing due to lack of blood. Her hemoglobin was now at 3.8 and kept falling. I told her to give her a transfusion. She said she isn't legally allowed to because of the previous written statement that she won't accept such treatment, and that she can't risk going to jail and being sued by the cult. I asked about erythropoietin. The doctor said it will take a lot of time to work, time which my mother doesn't have.

I spent the following 4 hours next to my mother crying and begging her to choose life over death. My best friend and about 10 other doctors were there too. They all told her to not die for this stupid cult. She was afraid of what other JWs will think if she accepts a transfusion. She told me that she leaves the decision with me. But the doctors said that they're legally required to have a written statement from her saying that she changed her mind and will accept blood. I told her that her "brothers and sisters" have forsaken her and that this death cult will let her die. With desperate work of convincing, she eventually signed the statement.

They gave her blood immediately. The next day she looked like a completely different person. She now had a hemoglobin of 8.2. The doctors say it's a miracle she didn't die with such a low level of hemoglobin that she had. Since then, she's been getting transfusions every day and has now returned to a normal level of hemoglobin. Investigations have shown that she has pernicious anemia, which can be easily treated and kept under control. The doctor say she'll be out of the hospital by next week.

So this fuckin' cult almost killed my mother for nothing. I've never felt more disgusted and hateful toward this cult. The only thing I want when I see them is to spit in their faces. Many JWs have visited her and they all are disappointed she didn't die like a martyr. My JW father had a party at our house the day after he found out my mother was dying (no joke). Now that fucker is mighty disappointed too. Sorry for my language but I just despise them all. And you don't want to hear what the doctors think of the JW cult. They're have anger, contempt, disgust, everything of the worst kind of feelings for them. And well deserved. So this is the story of how my mother almost died from a freaking easily treatable anemia because of this shitty cult. Stay away people! Stay away! I will let every non-JW know what a death cult this is.

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Could this be the future for the Watchtower?

by C0ntr013r in

been researching the mormons a little since they are quite similar to the jws.

they have a similar webpage and many videos to "help" the mormons in their faith.

i found this video done by abc4 news:.

cookiemaster

I know the numbers from a single congregation can't be considered representative for the religion as a whole, but where I'm from, the congo used to have 60-70 members when I was a kid and now it barely has 25-30. I've heard the elders say that they apostates have attacked us hard, LOL.

Most members of the congo today are old. Less than ten are younger than middle age. Also, there are about 5 pioneers sent here by the borg, so the real numbers of the congo would be even smaller. The only baptized in the past decade or so have been a young family (they poor and wife's mother was JW) and a 14 year old girl who's parents managed to successfully ruin her childhood.

That's all, and it's laughably pathetic for an area with 20,000+ people, constant pioneer presence and many "studies". I've grown up with these JW's and from a large number of kids who became adults, there are maybe 3 left that still attend. I remember when there were so many attending that there weren't enough seats in the hall and now there are about 15 people at WT study. Couple that with ultra aggressive elders and members so old that there's one dying every month and you get a congo about to go extinct.

In a county with about 300,000 people there are now so few JW's that in a 50 km radius you can't find more than 30. I sincerely and deeply hope that they're having the same loses everywhere.

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Convention Invites are Idiotic

by cookiemaster in

so, like every year, there's a campaign going on about giving people convention invites and urging them to attend the convention.

what an utterly moronic waste of time.

we live 500+ kilometers away from the convention hall.

cookiemaster

So, like every year, there's a campaign going on about giving people convention invites and urging them to attend the convention. What an utterly moronic waste of time. We live 500+ kilometers away from the convention hall. To attend, members of the congo need to be away from home for several days, need to find accommodations, pay for fuel and the dozens of other issues and expenses that occur.

Who in their right mind would believe anyone from these parts will attend? Honestly, I don't recall anyone ever doing that. Yet, every year we waste tons of paper and time, just to give away these ridiculous invites that people mock outright. Of course they find it laughable. Who wouldn't? It's a significant effort for most JW's to attend. Clearly, no sane "wordly" people would do that. So, why do they keep this idiotic practice going year after year?

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How old were you? What was the happiest year of your life?

by Esse quam videri in

what year comes to your mind as the happiest?

maybe some special place you lived, being with special people, an unforgettable period that made it your happiest.

cookiemaster

I'm 22 and the happiest times in my life have been my childhood and the time I fell in love with the woman I love.

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THIS IS WHAT WITNESSING HAS BEEN REDUCED TO IN 2015

by steve2 in

threads on the newer jw face of public "witnessing" have shared in common the astonishment that jws safely park themselves behind their literature trolleys and exercise incredibly little contact with passersby.

whether the poster is talking about europe or the united states or australia, descriptions here are the same.. literature stands are protective sheilds behind which jws huddle, talking to each other, sipping on their espressos, whilst the disinterested world passes by.

neither the jws nor the passersby catch each others eyes.

cookiemaster

Steve2 - Around these parts, it's not that many. Sure, you do get a lot of interest the first time people see you, especially in small towns, just because they haven't seen this kind of weird thing before, so it's something new. I live in a small town, with about 2500 people. The first time they set up their JW stand a few years ago, they gave about 60 books to "interested people" in a manner of hours. Once the novelty wore off, in days/weeks, people wouldn't even give them a second look. Now they're lucky if they can give away 10 pieces of literature in a month. Everyone ignores them.