cookiemaster
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JW Version Of Spring Cleaning
by JW_Rogue infrom the january study edition second study article paragraph 10:.
we can use the memorial season as an opportunity to look through our wardrobe, our movie and music collections, perhaps even the material stored on our computers, smartphones, and tablets.if i were going to a place where jesus would be present, would i feel uncomfortable wearing this clothing?if i did wear it, would it be obvious to all that i am a follower of christ jesus?would jesus be entertained by watching this movie or by listening to this music?
if he borrowed my cell phone or tablet, would i be embarrassed by what he saw there?as you consider the subject matter of a video game, ask yourself: would i find it difficult to explain to jesus why i enjoy playing it?
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cookiemaster
I find it very interesting how they used the term "Memorial Season". As if the Memorial has suddenly become a season. Now that they make regular dubs pioneer, give invites and attend memorial, they also want to add a sort of spring cleaning action? It sounds almost like the "Holiday Season", only devoid of any fun or enjoyment. They are actually trying to make JWs feel they have a holiday season. Only this holiday season is one no one is looking forward to. -
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How did you feel on Christmas as a JW child?
by cookiemaster inthis is obviously a question for born-ins like me.
so, how did christmas feel to you as a child?
to me it was awful.
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Outlaw - you are amazingly creative and funny as ever! I'm sorry you had your share of this type of experience.
Adjusted Knowledge - That's exactly what it's about. I don't care about the presents. But I'd love for the whole family to get together and celebrate. So show some appreciation for being able to be all together and live. To at least make it a celebration of life of nothing else.
Sour Grapes - Quite the thing isn't it? How fast can a nice life come crashing down and be ruined by a stupid cult. I was born in this ruin so I didn't get to experience this type of loss.
Finkelstein - Exactly!
Late Bloomer - Welcome! I quite enjoyed reading your novel. I've had very similar experiences. And yes, that's one of the worst things about JWs. They have absolutely no celebrations or joy in their lives. Conventions? Three days of hot boredom. Hell if you ask me. The memorial? Not a real celebration. Weddings? Maybe, but even then as you said they're quite somber and there are always some fanatical uber dubs that start complaining and ruin everyone's fun because they think the music or the dancing is too "worldly". As a JW kid you can little to look forward to.
Phaedra - You said something that resonates with me more than anything else. It's like the entire world is having a party that you aren't invited to. That's exactly how I felt and I still feel sometimes. Just like you, I still have family in and it still sucks. I'm also trying to avoid isolation these days, although it's not always easy. I wish you a Merry Christmas to you too!
Shirley - You didn't have it that bad. Kinda lucky!
StuckInaRut - Same here!
Belle - I'm glad you gave your child the opportunity to not suffer from this nightmare.
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How did you feel on Christmas as a JW child?
by cookiemaster inthis is obviously a question for born-ins like me.
so, how did christmas feel to you as a child?
to me it was awful.
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LITS - The part about hiding the tree is kinda funny. But sorry your grandmother died and you had a hard time after that, especially at school. I know first hand how hard school can be when you're made fun of or bullied. I think most JW kids are bullied at school. -
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How did you feel on Christmas as a JW child?
by cookiemaster inthis is obviously a question for born-ins like me.
so, how did christmas feel to you as a child?
to me it was awful.
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Oh, I forgot about the return to school part. All the teachers and students bragging about the things they did for Christmas and New Year's, the presents they got, they fun they had and I dreaded the moment when they'd ask me about all that. -
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How did you feel on Christmas as a JW child?
by cookiemaster inthis is obviously a question for born-ins like me.
so, how did christmas feel to you as a child?
to me it was awful.
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cookiemaster
This is obviously a question for born-ins like me. So, how did Christmas feel to you as a child? To me it was awful. Everyone was singing Christmas Carols at school in the weeks before Christmas. Being the only kid who doesn't do that sucks. You instantly become the one that's different from everyone else and thus the class weirdo. My parents wouldn't let me visit non-JW friends or relatives on Christmas. Obviously, no presents. No celebration. Nothing. It was kinda sad.
As a child, you feel left out. It doesn't help that all you can see on TV is Christmas movies and similar things. It's a time when everyone celebrates and you're stuck sitting in the house doing nothing. Or even worse, there were super fanatic dubs that wanted to go in service even on Christmas day. Of course, this made most people we visited quite mad.
But it wasn't all bad. I was free from school. Sometimes other JWs would come over and it would get quite celebratory despite the fact that we weren't celebrating anything. We would drink mulled wine. There was some cool stuff on TV too and I'd play video games with other kids.
My parents had this lame excuse that worldly people only show love to each other and give presents on Christmas while JWs do it all the time (which actually meant never). Generally, it was a pretty sucky time of the year, especially for a child that had to obey religiously fanatic parents. So, how was it for you? Equally shitty? -
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Boredom at the Kingdom Hall meetings
by RULES & REGULATIONS input aside all the stupid rules,beliefs,doctrines and practices of the jehovah's witnesses.this is one of the main reasons why i stopped attending all meetings!
boredom.
monotone speakers.
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cookiemaster
I used to go to the bathroom something like 6 times a meeting. I would sit there and play on my phone or listen to music. I even jerked off a few times, LOL. Plus, I'd never sit next to my parents. Always near a friend, so we could make fun of everyone else the entire meeting. There was this girl. I had this amazing chemistry with her. We were just in mental sync. Even if we sat on opposite sides of the hall, one look was enough to know what the other one was thinking and we'd just start laughing out loud at the same time at the stupidity of some answers that we almost got kicked out of the hall a few times. Those are some pretty good memories actually! -
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Tv's in Kingdom hall
by dothemath inso now that the borg has taken all of the congregations money, there was just a resolution to get all new tv's, etc for the stage for the new meeting format.. i wasn't there, but it was a large sum.
somebody mentioned over 3000$.. all the congregations in the city are likely doing the same thing, and are getting all the equipment from bethel.. i was wondering if this was happening all most everywhere?.
can't see it in third world countries( might not even have internet).
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Umm...I don't know about the U.S. but here in Romania all the kingdumb halls I know have had big HD TVs and internet connections for at least a year. I was kinda shocked myself as I live far from any hall and didn't go to any meeting in a long time. So, after half a year of absence, it kinda surprised me to see a big JW.ORG logo on the KH and TVs with an internet connection. Even though I was awake at the time, and keeping up with the news from JW land on this forum, it was still a WTF moment for me. -
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Blood Refusal Tragedy Sparks National Outrage
by cookiemaster inso, here's some news from my country.
there was this 20 year old jw girl who was a rookie driver.
she was in the car with her parents and for some reason decided to cross a railroad right before a train was coming.
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You guys make a lot of great points. Actually, in one of the first news reports that I've seen, they show a quote from the Romanian version of jw.org which clearly shows that JWs see blood transfusions as an extremely serious sin against God. The journalists point out to this indoctrination and "the people's attorney" for that city (something like an American district attorney) gives an interview saying that he believes this JW doctrine goes against basic human rights and that doctors should have full authority in these kinds of situations to do what is best for the patient, which is why a criminal investigation has been launched which could potentially target the borg. -
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Blood Refusal Tragedy Sparks National Outrage
by cookiemaster inso, here's some news from my country.
there was this 20 year old jw girl who was a rookie driver.
she was in the car with her parents and for some reason decided to cross a railroad right before a train was coming.
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cookiemaster
Crazyguy - Here's a link to a very, very bad English translation, but I think you can make out the main stuff: http://www.jwblood.org/19yo-woman-whose-family-refused-blood-transfusions-for-religious-reasons-died-in-hospital/
Sadly, this is the only thing I could find in English about this event. Maybe you want to show the news reports to someone, but sadly, I can't find them in English.
Sadly, I can't find the statement of the branch representative online. But the guys says that it really happened. Really shook his faith. Probably it was given to one of the small local papers that don't get as much coverage. With hundreds of Romanian websites telling this story at the moment, I can't seem to find it. But it wouldn't surprise me to be true as it is their official position in the neighboring country of Bulgaria.
It was one of the conditions for the religion to become legal in the country. You can find proof of that and the whole story in JW Facts. So, they have declared this publicly before almost 20 years ago. Of course, JWs in Bulgaria know it isn't true, as anyone having a transfusion will suffer the known consequences. It just goes to show how hypocritical they are.
At least this girl's death wasn't totally in vain and it managed to turn the entire public's opinion against JWs in this country. Now, most people are seeing them as a super dangerous cult that kills people. This infamy will make it very hard for them to get any converts. I wonder how long before they'll drop this evil doctrine. -
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Blood Refusal Tragedy Sparks National Outrage
by cookiemaster inso, here's some news from my country.
there was this 20 year old jw girl who was a rookie driver.
she was in the car with her parents and for some reason decided to cross a railroad right before a train was coming.
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cookiemaster
Also, this thread on Reddit discusses this issue too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3slraa/19_year_old_girl_dies_in_romania_after_jw_parents/