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  Memorial talk fact checking - a story

  by 88JM in

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  this was in the memorial talk here last night, used as an illustration i guess.. i think there is some direction to use an experience like this in the outline, but the story that the speaker told (presented as fact) sounds totally bogus to me, or at best urban legend.. does anyone know if this is actually true?

  here is the story the speaker told:.

  "some years ago there was a tragic train accident in england, and sadly some lost their lives.

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  Skinnedsheep

  Sounds like a cartoon.
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  Jw.org FAQ do Jehovah'Witnesses practice tithing?

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/do-jehovahs-witnesses-tithe/.

  5 bucks says this article either disappears or is re written in the next month.

  here is the text of the article... .

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  http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/do-jehovahs-witnesses-tithe/

  5 bucks says this article either disappears or is re written in the next month. Here is the text of the article..

  "No, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not practice tithing; our work is financed by anonymous voluntary donations. What is a tithe, and why don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses practice tithing?

  The commandment to tithe, or contribute a tenth of one’s belongings, was part of the Law given to the ancient nation of Israel. However, the Bible makes it clear that this Law—including the “commandment to collect tithes”—does not apply to Christians.—Hebrews 7:5, 18; Colossians 2:13, 14.

  Rather than giving required tithes and offerings, Jehovah’s Witnesses imitate the early Christians and support their ministry in two ways: by performing their personal ministerial work without pay and by making voluntary donations.

  We thus follow the Bible’s direction to Christians: “Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”—2 Corinthians 9:7.
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  Gerritt Loesch life story .... Total hypocrisy

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as written in the july 15 2014 wt.

  what gerrit used to believe and teach.... the roman catholic teaching of apostolic succession claims that there is an unbroken succession of popes in a line extending all the way back to the apostle peter.

  (the church misinterprets jesus words that are quoted at matthew 16:18, 19.

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  As written in the July 15 2014 wt

  What Gerrit used to believe and teach...

  “The Roman Catholic teaching of apostolic succession claims that there is an unbroken succession of popes in a line extending all the way back to the apostle Peter. (The church misinterprets Jesus’ words that are quoted at Matthew 16:18, 19.) Catholicism also claims that the pope is infallible in matters of doctrine when he speaks ex cathedra, or in an official capacity. I believed this and thought that if the pope, whom Catholics call Holy Father, is infallible in doctrinal matters and has proclaimed the Trinity to be true, then it must be true. But if he is not infallible, then the doctrine may be false. No wonder that for many Catholics the teaching of apostolic succession is the most important teaching, since the correctness or incorrectness of other Catholic teachings hinges on it!”

  Edited to reflect what Gerritt now believes and teaches...aka the "new fds" understanding. Bold are the only changes... Note that apostolic succession has been replaced with fds and catholiscm has been replaced with org, and pope is replaced with GB ...

  “The Witness teaching of the Faithful and Discrete Slave succession claims that there is an unbroken succession of Governing Body members in a line extending all the way back to Judge Rutherford (The Organization misinterprets Jesus’ words that are quoted at Matthew 16:18, 19.) the Organization also claims that the Faithful and Discrete Slave is infallible in matters of doctrine when they speaks ex cathedra, or in an official capacity. I believed this and thought that if the Governing Body, whom Witnesses call the Faithful and Discrete Slave is infallible in doctrinal matters and has proclaimed 1914 to be true, then it must be true. But if they are not infallible, then the doctrine may be false. No wonder that for many Witnesses the teaching of Faithful and Discrete Slave is the most important teaching, since the correctness or incorrectness of other Witness teachings hinges on it!”
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  REMEMBER THOSE IN NURSING HOMES

  by The Searcher in

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  when i saw this article's title in the latest kingdom ministry - http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/278822/1/june-2014-kingdom-ministry-km-06-2014-pdf - i was delighted!!.

  i thought, "at last, we are all being encouraged to visit our poor brothers & sisters in nursing homes, who feel abandoned!.

  nope, that's not it - it's all about targetting non-witnesses in those establishments, and get them to sign up for "bible" studies.

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  Interestingly, the person conducting the study session is asked to collect the publications afterward. Can't let the relatives see what they are studying...
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  Is this new donation arrangement for real?

  by nugget in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

  congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

  congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

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  this is going to go over like a lead balloon. the local elders will comply but they will resent it.

  the society is really their own worse enemy. it's like they put their foot in their mouth and then shoot themselves in the head.
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  Attn faders/lurkers re donations

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  when you get your anonymous survey pledge an exorbitant amount.

  the elders will make the resolution based on the fake pledge and it will create conflict between the branch and the cong....when the donations don't come in the branch be like "pay the man".

  the local body will have to have several local needs parts which will highlight the branches focus on money.

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  Exactly, a fake pledge of 75-150$ is perfect.
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  Attn faders/lurkers re donations

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you get your anonymous survey pledge an exorbitant amount.

  the elders will make the resolution based on the fake pledge and it will create conflict between the branch and the cong....when the donations don't come in the branch be like "pay the man".

  the local body will have to have several local needs parts which will highlight the branches focus on money.

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  When you get your anonymous survey pledge an exorbitant amount. The elders will make the resolution based on the fake pledge and it will create conflict between the branch and the cong....when the donations don't come in the branch be like "pay the man"

  the local body will have to have several local needs parts which will highlight the Branches focus on money. Hopefully more of us get out due to this money grubbing.
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  Is this new donation arrangement for real?

  by nugget in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

  congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

  congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

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  Juan thanks for the info. You have always been solid and credible in passing along info. I would love to hear more if you can share.
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  Is this new donation arrangement for real?

  by nugget in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

  congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

  congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

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  If I was still an elder this would have woke me up. To request a back door form of a tithe and then have a 3 page "ps" to the letter that is not to be read to the cong? Hopefully more brothers see that this organization is only about money. They sure have come a long way in 20 years. The business is rolling up.

  Lol this is nuts. last week it was "we are not covering your legal expenses if you get sued" and this week it is, "send us all of the cash you have in your account and ask the friends to pledge a monthly amount." And about that KH loan that you thought you had almost paid off....we lovingly refinanced the note with a new arrangement that can be paid back forever.
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  Overlapping Generation/GB/Doug Sanderson

  by Simon Morley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my apologies of this topic has been covered already - please redirect me if it has:.

  current belief is:.

  watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.

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  Skinnedsheep

  Well done on the chart.