Posts by Junction-Guy

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2008 Drama what a joke -cheesy fake characters communist propaganda!

by Witness 007 in

"don't lose the love you had at first.

" my mum sent me the dvd hoping it will "save" us.

i love how there is always a super spiritual group and a villans group of brothers who end up ruining their lives.

Junction-Guy

My cousin thinks JW's ARE a communist organization, of course I won't try to change her mind.

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Can someone help me with the latest thinking on Boy Scouts??

by lrkr in

just wondering what, if anything has been published in the past about joining the boy scouts?

is it an automatic da, like joining the army?

?.

As far as I know, there is nothing in writing about joining the Boy Scouts, however just ask any Elder and they will tell you why you shouldn't join.

Does anyone know if the old school brochure mentioned the Boy Scouts.

The Boy Scouts are very patriotic with a somewhat religious angle too, so really why would any "real" Jehovah's Witness want to join in the first place?

Also aren't the Boy Scouts required to take an oath of allegiance to their countryin order to join?

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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

by reniaa in

i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

Junction-Guy

Here is the way I see it--Those Christian traditions such as the yule log, etc etc are not inherently wrong in themselves, and they are not pagan so long as you are not doing them in worship to a false God.

If you light a yule log and say a prayer to Mithras, then you are doing a pagan act. If you simply just light the yule log for decorations sake, then no it is not pagan. Therefore while Christmas may have pagan roots, Christmas today is very much a Christian holiday. I don't believe you will be judged for celebrating Christmas, I simply don't see it. I do believe that God may judge those who are affiliated with the JW org. I would much rather be in Saint Nicks shoes than Judge Rutherford's or Freddy Franz.

So if you don't want to celebrate christmas, then fine that is your choice, no one should force you to celebrate it. You are an adult and free to make your own choices. I do feel compassion towards your kids (if you have any) for they may never get to experience the joy of Christmas.

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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

by reniaa in

i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

Junction-Guy

Yeah it is pretty much that simple,

The thing is the JW org would never do that so drastically--They are very slick. They tend to implement things slowly at a time to make them more palatable.

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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

by reniaa in

i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

Junction-Guy

Renaia, I am not sure about the whole world, but if some historic document and especially a gospel was discovered, and if the date of Jesus birth was mentioned, then here in America we would probably change the date of Christmas. As for the trees and lights, well they are just decorations, and somewhere I have even seen a webpage explaining the meanings of the traditions with a christian view.

Here is another point too----There are very few actual dates mentioned in the bible, mostly the dates come from other sources. If I am wrong correct me, but is there anywhere in the bible where a specific date is mentioned such as 607 BC, 586 BC, 70 CE? I don't recall any dates being mentioned.

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Any JWs who did NOT refuse BLOOD transfusion?

by JWdaughter in

i have never heard of one.. the key word here for me is "minor".......mature or not.......the law would still see them as a minor and couldn't override the parents decision for fear of lawsuits or worse.. like i said............i have never heard of one.

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jes.

Junction-Guy

No, since it was just an appendectomy no blood was needed. However I made it known to the doctor that I would take it if necessary. At first I him hawed around about it, then finally I told him point blank to do whatever was necessary to save my life, including blood.

My Dad and Stepmom were outside the room as the doctor asked them for privacy to talk to me. I bet they thought for sure I would remain faithful to the Cult, they probably even told the doctor I wouldn't budge--proved them wrong in the doctor's eyes.

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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

by reniaa in

i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

Junction-Guy

Perhaps things are different in the UK, but celebrating Christmas in America stunbles no one, it is just the opposite. By JW's making a big fuss over not celebrating Christmas, they are stumbling alot of people who would maybe consider them.

Now there is alot of commercialism in Christmas nowadays, but that is just a general reflection of modern day society at large and shouldn't single out Christmas only.

My church downplays the secularism of Christmas and Easter, and always exalts Jesus above any other aspect, and to me that is what Christianity and Christmas are about.

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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

by reniaa in

i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

Junction-Guy

Here is something for you to ponder further Renaia--

1. You mentioned earlier that if Christmas was so important then God would have mentioned it in the bible.

2 You also mentioned that Christmas was a Catholic inspired holiday.

Well if you look at it that way, then it would naturally follow that the name "Jehovah" is a Catholic invention and that if then name of Jehovah is so important for his sovreignty, then why did God not see to it that his name was in the bible? The original pronunciation was lost in time and the name of Jehovah was invented by a Catholic Monk.

You see where I am getting at?

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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

by reniaa in

i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

Junction-Guy

Reniaa, I left the JW's so I could have a normal life, not because I wanted to rebel against God or the Bible.

Being a JW hindered me from dating and from marriage. In order for me to find a JW mate I would have to have gotten baptized into the organization. Following baptism I would have been required to shun my Mom and distance myself from my "worldly, but christian family" I weighed the costs and decided it was much too high for me. My brother was just the opposite. He willingly got baptized and subsequently shunned Mom and distanced himself from the rest of the family. Because my brother was baptized, he was considered good JW marriage material, and therefore had numerous opportunities open up to him.

I finally decided the heck with it all, and quit going to the meetings, within 3 months I met Amanda, we started dating and things fell into place, and the rest is history.

My stepgrandma told me point blank about 6 years ago--"That JW religion is a bunch of sh-t, it nearly destroyed you boys" and in my case that is so true. Thankfully for me I was able to salvage my faith in Jesus after leaving the JW's. On Feb 14,1999 I surrendered my all to Jesus at my church up in Kentucky. What brought me to the altar was something the preacher said about being ashamed of Jesus. You see 2 months prior I was riding high in life, I was about to embark on a new career. I was a practical shoe-in for the job. When I went to the interview, I was asked who was the most important influence in my life. I wanted to say "Jesus" but I didn't. I was pre conditioned since birth not to give any special devotion to Jesus and was therefore embarassed to say Jesus. I never did get that job, and for weeks my conscience bothered me.

The JW religion binds people up in non-biblical rules and regulations and when they finally leave it is like a coil/spring that has unwound. Yes alot of XJW's go on to commit many biblical sins and many even end up atheist, but that is the legacy that the JW's leave behind. If someone can leave the JW's with their beliefs in God intact and still live biblically sound lives--well they are probably in the minority.

This religion is destructive, it is destructive to families, it is destructive to the developing minds of children.

If celebrating Christmas,birthdays, thanksgiving is displeasing to God, then surely being a JW is even worse.

I celebrate just about all holidays now, and I also vote. I don't fornicate, I don't drink, I don't smoke pot. I don't even buy lottery tickets anymore.

It is my goal again to remarry, have a happy family life, have kids, all of this without the Watchtower's influence, or shall I say desipte the Watchtower's influence.

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Apple Day is here again

by Junction-Guy in

jw
friends

in five hours i head out for kentucky.

this is the kentucky apple festival weekend, otherwise known as "apple day".

this is always the highlight of my year and something i never want to miss, though occasionally i have.. .

Junction-Guy

Well I never would have thought that IP-SEC, now why didn't you bring your guitar to the Aposta-fish fry?