Posts by BackseatDevil

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Duck Watchtowercy

by Defianttruth in

with phil robertson getting the boot within a day of his comments by a&e, what would happen if the lbg community started calling all of the venue managers of their convention arenas and exposing them for the hate group they are today?

just a thought.

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BackseatDevil

@Pronger1 I take absolutely NO offense to what you said, but I'm just going to use you as an example... nothing more.

NO ONE... absolutely no one, is asking anyone to think about GAY SEX. In the interview he was asked about modern morality... that was it. He trailed off all over the place and ended up with vaginas and f*cking horses.

When concervatives are asked about marriage equality, their minds SOMEHOW go to two guys f^cking (possibly with a horse). WHY?

You ask 100 straight couples who are married, "What makes a happy relationship?" 95% of them are going to give you a long list without including sex. With all guys (gay or straight) there are many steps that happen before we can have sex with our lifelong partner. ALL straight married guys know this... lol. So why do people look at two guys together and think "SEX!"?

Obviously... sex is on SOMEONE's brain.

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Interesting video on quantum mechanics

by willmarite in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c5pq7w5yrm.

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an interesting video on quantum physics for those with an open mind..

BackseatDevil

The interesting thing about quantum mechanics is that for those that believe in god... each move forward expands some view that proves god. for those who do not believe in god, each move forward is exciting because it's open ended to science yet to be learned.

It's like playing the child's game hopscotch on the sidewalk. With each new set of squares and numbers drawn, the theist becomes excited about reaching a new box in the game. The physicist gets excited because all he sees is more sidewalk on which to draw.

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Interesting video on quantum mechanics

by willmarite in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c5pq7w5yrm.

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an interesting video on quantum physics for those with an open mind..

BackseatDevil

That video went WAY too fast and assumes the audience knows half the words they are using. You have to grasp the concept of quantum mechanics before watching this. It also gives finite assumption when the field is constantly changing. It is a lot of unconfirmed information.

If you want an excellent book on the subject (without the math) try "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" http://tinyurl.com/kww39b9

That book changed my life. I learned more from reading that once then reading the bible twice.

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Why are there no black angels?

by snare&racket in

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jw literature is racist as hell.

jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.

....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .

BackseatDevil

@ADJUSTMENTS I personally think that the individual religious entity is irrelevant in this case of racial omission. It is more of a christian fundamentalism ideal that all the races started with Noah's sons. That is why I'm surprised at so many on here that are shocked by the concept that there were no black people before Noah's flood. Anyone born in the "truth" knows this. Anyone born into ANY christian fundamentalist group would believe similar.

In discussing FOX news and the newly declared "white Jesus", it is a true reminder that tradition does not always follow reality. For centuries Jesus has been white in art, sculpture, poetry, interpretation, etc. as an icon. On the cross with thorns on his head... he is white. And why not? He was the son of God who (as I mentioned above) had an all white kingdom.

Racism in the individual cults and sects may perpetuate the gleaming white purity of heaven... but they are by no means the source of it.

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Duck Watchtowercy

by Defianttruth in

with phil robertson getting the boot within a day of his comments by a&e, what would happen if the lbg community started calling all of the venue managers of their convention arenas and exposing them for the hate group they are today?

just a thought.

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BackseatDevil

I didn't really care what Phil said... he has a right to his opinion.

It was the reference to horse f*cking that I was shocked by. What I do and how I love doesn't resemble horse f*cking in the least bit. But to be fair, I've personally never f*cked a horse... so I don't know. He is allowed to make that assumption... just like I am allowed to assume that he and everyone from that part of Louisiana know a lot more about horse f*king than I do. And just look at him... I mean, honestly, if there is ANYONE on the planet you are going to trust about the subtle nuances of f*cking a horse, it's going to be the ZZTop roadie who whittles and blows whistles for a living.

Sp apparently me and all my LGB brothers and sisters have been f*cking wrong all these years. I'm learning something new. I think this is an oppritunity for all of us to grow in our hearts... open our eyes, and learn how to f*ck like horses.

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Why are there no black angels?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

jw literature is racist as hell.

jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.

....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .

BackseatDevil

Asian: Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Heth & Sin

Also not part of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Seriously, did no one learn this while in the religion? Was I the only one?

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The Foolish 'Two Witness" Concept

by metatron in

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it seems, if i am interpreting the documents correctly, that many in the organization might reject good forensic evidence of a crime just because there aren't two or more (human) witnesses to back it up.. a quick look at the watchtower concordance reveals that all sorts of things can act as a 'witness' - such as a pile of rocks.. in john, jesus claimed that 'his works' acted as a witness.. actually, forensic evidence can offer more accurate 'testimony' than humans and is often superior.

in any case, this 'two witness' stuff is rubbish, even from a biblical point of view.

things can be a witness.. .

BackseatDevil

On the bases of two or three witnesses.

Yes, I am well aware that some religions interpret "witness" to include inanimate objects in nature... that are CREATED BY GOD. As creations of god they can bare witness on his behalf.

I guess.

Jesus in Matthew 18:16 was actually reiterating what Moses said in Deuteronomy 17:6 - and this had to do with someone wronging someone else. If you ever witnessed two Jewish people in a heated argument over a wrong it can get rather... lively. In this case, the rule is perfectly understandable.

However, because Jews do not view "god" in the narrative format that Christians do, there is a spirituality that is assigned to the elements. The rocks gave forth water, honey, mana came from heaven, god spoke through a bush, the ground opened up to swallow the calf worshipers, Hanna received water from the ground, Aaron's rod grew flowers, rocks were used for the urim and the thummim. The earth as they knew it WAS LIVING. It had LIFE.

So in that mind, yes, elements of the earth can bare witness. That was NOT what Jesus was saying and it certainly was not what Paul was instructing in 2 Corinthians 13:1 as the church in Corinth were having serious problems... and Paul had to tell them " BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES" as there was much dispute about the authority of Jesus and such. Remember, not everyone can read, so once a letter was read to the church or a visit happened, people can go off to neighboring villiages and say whatever... arguing a point they cannot verify because they do not have the source material at hand.

Anyway, my opinion is that some of these people could have been using the old Jewish thinking about evoking the "witness" of inanimate objects... but regardless Paul said no... and he uses the words "at the mouth" (sometimes translated as "testimony". The witness had to be able to speak. So ask a Jewish person about the old law regarding the witness of a pile of rocks, but for the new law established by Jesus (who also uses "by the mouth"), the answer is no... inanimate objects should not be "witnesses".

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Why are there no black angels?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

jw literature is racist as hell.

jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.

....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .

BackseatDevil

@humbled sorry, but 3rdgen is correct, I am not kidding. Adam and Eve were "perfection"... and they were white(ish). And they spoke Hebrew (supposedly). They were created in God's image... therefore God is presumably white as well. The kingdom of heaven is thus an all-white sausage fest.

Now, with the confusion at the Tower of Babel we get different languages of the earth.

And per Noah's Shem, Ham, and Japheth we get the races. Ham -> Cush -> East African inhabitants a.k.a. "black people." So before the flood there were no black people. They didn't exist until after Cush.

(PLEASE realize I can barely make it through this without peeing myself.)

NOW, The Latter Day Saints come right out and say that Ham was the "cursed" son, and that's how we got the black folks (this is biblically incorrect as Noah cursed his grandson Canaan, NOT Ham). Because of that, the only way a black person could get into heaven is by being a slave of a white Mormon. Jehovah's Witnesses are more subtle, of course. I personally was never taught that black people would turn white in the new system, but we were all going to slowly turn BACK into perfection and as a Mexican I assumed that meant being lighter skinned and speaking Hebrew (no real answer on our clothes, however). The Latter Day Saints have changed their view, of course. And Jehovah's Witnesses have moved their slight passive agressive authoritarian condescension from racism to homophobia.

But the only black angels would be those of the 144,000 who were black here on earth - the 144,000 didn't start until after Christ died. And black people didn't hear the word of god until AFTER the bible was written. SO all angels portrayed from the garden of Eden to Revelation would thus all be white.

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Why are there no black angels?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

jw literature is racist as hell.

jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.

....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .

BackseatDevil

Black people didn't exist until AFTER Noah's flood (via one of his sons). The heavenly kingdom was already in place by then.

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Revelation, It's Grand Climax at Hand

by Cold Steel in

it's a rather large red book.. if i wanted to purchase one from a pioneer, how much would it cost?.

i'm reading a borrowed copy now.. thanks!.

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BackseatDevil

If you want the ramblings of a hallucinating madman broken down, I have several notebooks of mine I can sell you. Some even come with pictures!