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  Is this a big hole in the "great crowd&quo...

  by yesidid in

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  there seems to be a gaping hole [another one] in the wts teaching on the two classes.

  could someone correct me if i am wrong.

  they teach there are only two classes, the 144,000 who are going to heaven and the great crowd who will live on earth.

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  There seems to be a gaping hole [another one] in the WTS teaching on the two classes. Could someone correct me if I am wrong. They teach there are only two classes, the 144,000 who are going to heaven and the great crowd who will live on earth. *** Rbi8 Revelation 7:14 *** says of the great crowd These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation.

  Now the latest light, I believe is that the great tribulation is yet future

  So what about the billions who are not included in the 144,00 but have died before the great tribulation?

  This would include my parents and every witness, not claiming to be of the anointed, who has died. They did not, and will not, go through the great tribulation. Yet they and all "non-anointed" Witnesses living now are referred to as the great crowd. How can we say one is of the great crowd until after the great tribulation? And if one is not of the anointed or of the great crowd, could you please give me the proper name of the third class.

  This is a question I would like to ask a loyal intelligent, well-read Witness friend. So could anyone help me with what I may expect as a reply.

  Edited by - yesidid on 3 January 2003 5:12:39

  Edited by - yesidid on 3 January 2003 5:13:58

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  Can JWs Be DF'd Just For Believing Differently?

  by Yadirf in

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  2. friends

  the following is copied from off another forum, as i thought it ought to be given as wide a publicity as possible because it seems most people here don't have a really good understanding of the issue and policy of the wts.. can jws be df'd just for believing differently?.

  http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgiposted by questionfromviewer on thu - dec 19 - 01:30am: .

  question from a viewer: .

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  Valis said

  A couple of simple yet glaring examples of getting the BID DF might be Greg Stafford and Carl Olof Jonsson. If we are talking about people getting the axe for believing differently.

  yesidid asks:

  Not sure what you meant by that. I know Carl Olof Jonsson was df'd but last I knew Greg Stafford was not.

  Are you saying that Greg has been, or that tho they both questioned the society's teachings Carl has been df'd and Greg left alone.

  Edited by - yesidid on 20 December 2002 18:24:59
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  How to help a JW using 607, 1914 stuff.

  by apocalypse in

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  2. bible

  the following information was prepared for the benefit of those who are endeavoring to assist a close friend or relative who is a jehovahs witness.

  it is intended to aid a person who wishes to, in a non-confrontational manner, approach the vital foundational issue with respect to the primary doctrine of jehovahs witnesses.

  it can be done without the recipient of the information even becoming aware of your intentions.

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  Dear apocalypsel

  Thanks for all the work involved in getting that info in print. I have downloaded and will digest it later.
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  What is up w/my mom?

  by flower in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i really hate jw hypocrisy.

  i love my mom but i am sick and tired of the hypocrisy from her and my family.

  last summer on august 10th a day before my sons 3rd birthday i recieved package from my jw family wrapped in cute gift paper.

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  Just shows to show you cant please everybody. I read in another post that someone thought their witness parents were heartless and cruel because they didn't give their grand-children Christmass and birthday presents. You think they are rotten hyprocrites because they do. It's true you cant win em all.
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  Please help with WT quote

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
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  could someone please help me with the wt article where they say that you do not even have to speak to others about the things with which you don't agree with the society to be dfd.

  just the fact that you believe differently can get you zapped.

  need the info to help wavering friend.

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  borgfree,

  You did it, you absolutely did it. That is the one I wanted. Thank you, thank you very much.

  Maria
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  apocalypse please help.

  by yesidid in

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  apocalypse: .

  in another thread you said this: .

  "tell her that you want her to help you understand the 607, 1914 stuff.

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  Brummie

  Thanks for the welcom. Don't worry as soon as I get that info you will be the first to know.

  apocalypse,

  Thanks for doing that. I look forward to your post.

  Maria
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  apocalypse please help.

  by yesidid in

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  apocalypse: .

  in another thread you said this: .

  "tell her that you want her to help you understand the 607, 1914 stuff.

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  Apocalypse:

  In another thread you said this:

  "Tell her that you want her to help you understand the 607, 1914 stuff. Its very easy to cause a traffic jam in her brain using only the Insight volumes. I can show you how. Its a snap. A few questions later and she will be awake all night thinking of it."

  Please let us in on this one.

  BTW thank you for that post. I am so delighted you were able to bring your wife to freedom with you. As you have said it is very difficult even when you have a mate within whom you can confide. Must be hell on wheels on your own.

  Maria
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  Please help with WT quote

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could someone please help me with the wt article where they say that you do not even have to speak to others about the things with which you don't agree with the society to be dfd.

  just the fact that you believe differently can get you zapped.

  need the info to help wavering friend.

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  Thanks JT and Gerard,

  Appreciate your help. Tho not exactly the one I was looking for they were good.

  Maria
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  Please help with WT quote

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could someone please help me with the wt article where they say that you do not even have to speak to others about the things with which you don't agree with the society to be dfd.

  just the fact that you believe differently can get you zapped.

  need the info to help wavering friend.

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  Undisfellowshipped,

  You are wonderful, thanks for all the time you spent getting that infor for me. Those quotes will be very helpful. There is another one I have seen somewhere. It's not this one

  The Watchtower April 1, 1986 - States - "Approved association with Jehovah's Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah's Witnesses.

  but it is similar, it says that elders should keep in mind that pubs don't have to be spreading contrary teachings to be zapped. I do wish I could find it. We are having conversations with a dear and very precious brother who does not believe many things being dished out but we want him to realize that the org is such that he could be in big trouble just for thinking these things. Thank you again for your help.

  Maria
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  Please help with WT quote

  by yesidid in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could someone please help me with the wt article where they say that you do not even have to speak to others about the things with which you don't agree with the society to be dfd.

  just the fact that you believe differently can get you zapped.

  need the info to help wavering friend.

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  yesidid

  Could someone please help me with the Wt article where they say that you do not even have to speak to others about the things with which you don't agree with the society to be dfd. Just the fact that you believe differently can get you zapped. Need the info to help wavering friend.

  Maria