Posts by heyfea

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Suspicious

by Suspicious in

i guess i'm new here.

born in and an ms. things just hasn't been making sense the more i think about it.

i'm starting to get suspicious.

Many times I heard things said at the meetings or conventions that really made me angry, but of course I couldn't voice my emotions, not to any "friend" in the KH or to my mother (a die hard witness to this very day, she's 75).

One time I heard an experience at a D.C. about a JW father who had two sons. One son wanted to go to college and the father told him that he should go ahead, however, the father was NOT going to help him finantially at all, that all costs would have to be paid by the son himself. The other son wanted to work part-time and become a regular pioneer. Well, to the latter son, the father offered ALL the finantial help he needed. This pissed me off so much because it is totally irrational, let alone unfair. Of course, the first son re-thought the whole idea about going to college and decided to also work part-time and become a regular pioneer too. And the whole assembly of brothers exploded in applause, you know the drill.....pathetic....but I applauded too. Today, I'm ashamed I did.

I think that I experienced many moments like this at countless meetings. I bet you felt the same also.

My recommendation is simple, but not easy, still it's imperative to do this, STOP going to meetings, STOP reading anything from the WT. Get yourself a bible, not from the WT: you could even download one on your iphone, like Bible.is (you could read it or listen (in drama too) and devour it for the first time without any preconceptions. Trust me, for the first time, you will SEE, you will cry, you will be convicted and you will ask Jesus to forgive you. Most of all, you will thank Him, because those suspicions you have, are really calls to you to find the truth, who is Jesus. (John 6:44 - no one comes to me unless the Father who sent me draws him).

Best of luck my friend.

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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..

by confusedteenager in

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not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.

they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.

of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .

heyfea

In view of the WTS saying that the 'FDS' aka the governing body, is today's ONLY channel of spiritual provider to the church, like in the first century the apostles were, then surely the 'FDS' should teach the same way the apostles did. Yet, I've NEVER read in the bible that Paul said:

"For a long time I thought that the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 A fter that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. But, UPON further examination of the resurrection , however, I perceived that a part of this is not totally as I thought it's going to be.....let me explain....."

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To all christians...

by wolfman85 in

...should we celebrate the memorial in our homes?

will you do it?

any ideas.

heyfea

Imagine the Antichrist's army during the great tribulation, hunting for Christians, they enter into a KH on a Memorial day, they see people gathered to take communion, passing the wine and bread, but no one partakes, so the soldiers leave the KH thinking every one in there hates Jesus, just like the Antichrist. LOL

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Any explanation from WT about the missing tribe in Rev. chap. 7?

by heyfea in

i don't think i ever heard a reference from the wt about the fact that in chapter 7 of revelation, one of the tribes of israel, dan, is missing and replaced with the tribe of manasseh, who's joseph's son (jacob adopted joseph's son as his own).. since the wt insists that the 144,000 "jews" are not literal jews, then why jesus didn't simply mention all the original tribe names in revelation?

it really wouldn't have made a difference, right?.

ah, but what if these 144,000 jews, are really jews?

heyfea

One thing that pops into my mind from time to time is that, we've been waiting for almost two thousand years for Jesus return. Why? Could it be that the gathering of the 144,000 jews is not complete? Think of this: How many jews accept Jesus as the Messiah every day? How long will it take to complete 12,000 of each tribe mentioned in Revelation 7? Only God knows the day and the hour of Jesus return because He also knows which jewish person belongs to which tribe, and how many more are needed from each tribe. Now, does it seem more logical all this waiting? It does to me.

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Any explanation from WT about the missing tribe in Rev. chap. 7?

by heyfea in

i don't think i ever heard a reference from the wt about the fact that in chapter 7 of revelation, one of the tribes of israel, dan, is missing and replaced with the tribe of manasseh, who's joseph's son (jacob adopted joseph's son as his own).. since the wt insists that the 144,000 "jews" are not literal jews, then why jesus didn't simply mention all the original tribe names in revelation?

it really wouldn't have made a difference, right?.

ah, but what if these 144,000 jews, are really jews?

heyfea

"The following may be the reason for the difference: Jacob’s firstborn son Reuben lost his right as firstborn by his misconduct. (Ge 49:3, 4; 1Ch 5:1, 2) Joseph (the firstborn son of Jacob through his second, but favorite, wife Rachel) gained the privileges of firstborn son, including the right to have two parts, or portions, in Israel. (Ge 48:21, 22)......The inclusion of Levi would also serve to show that there is no special priestly tribe in spiritual Israel, the entire spiritual nation being “a royal priesthood.”—1Pe 2:9."

Thank you Caminante.

This WT reasoning would seem to point even more to the fact that these 144,000 are literal jews. If not, then Jesus is making a mockery of Joseph, Manasseh and Ephraim. In fact Jesus is making a mockery of every tribe of Israel.

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Any explanation from WT about the missing tribe in Rev. chap. 7?

by heyfea in

i don't think i ever heard a reference from the wt about the fact that in chapter 7 of revelation, one of the tribes of israel, dan, is missing and replaced with the tribe of manasseh, who's joseph's son (jacob adopted joseph's son as his own).. since the wt insists that the 144,000 "jews" are not literal jews, then why jesus didn't simply mention all the original tribe names in revelation?

it really wouldn't have made a difference, right?.

ah, but what if these 144,000 jews, are really jews?

heyfea

Hello all,

I don't think I ever heard a reference from the WT about the fact that in chapter 7 of Revelation, one of the tribes of Israel, Dan, is missing and replaced with the tribe of Manasseh, who's Joseph's son (Jacob adopted Joseph's son as his own).

Since the WT insists that the 144,000 "jews" are NOT literal jews, then why Jesus didn't simply mention all the ORIGINAL tribe names in Revelation? It really wouldn't have made a difference, right?

Ah, but what if these 144,000 jews, are REALLY jews? Oh, then you bet it DOES matter which tribe gets Jesus's approval. Have anyone ever seen any information from the WT regarding this?

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My mom assigned an elder as her Health Care Proxy and now dr. won't speak to us

by heyfea in

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i haven't been able to visit the forum in a long time.

life has gotten complicated since my husband's business declined.

the household with a steady income (peanuts).

heyfea

Thanks Snoozy for your reply,

We always had a decent relationship with our mom.

My mom was babysitting for a friend when she felt sick and fell asleep. Her friend found her asleep and knew right away something was wrong, so she started dialing all the number's in my mom's cell phone.

My sister and I have been visiting my mother every day. We even helped the nurses change her, clean her and feed her. The thing is that since my mom does not speak English, she asks us to tell her what is the doctor's prognosis, but when we ask the doctor, he refuses to tell us because we are not in her proxy. We told our mother the problem and she says that she didn't know the person in the proxy was meant to be the only one who could receive medical updates about the patient (aside from making decisions if the patient is unable to). That's the real problem. We could respect her refusal to receive blood, but we want to know everything about her health.

My husband is working every day; he's very hard working, but his clients are taking longer and longer to pay him. It's a sad chain reaction. You see, he reglazes bathtubs, sinks, tiles, etc. mainly for management companies, but these management companies are not getting paid by the building's owners because the owners are not getting their rent paid by the tenants who, I assume, are out of a job. It's really a mess.

I have tried to make my husband help around the house, but is a lost cause. He does have one excellent thing which I appreciate a lot; he does the groceries. He's at Costco with my son now.

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My mom assigned an elder as her Health Care Proxy and now dr. won't speak to us

by heyfea in

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friends

i haven't been able to visit the forum in a long time.

life has gotten complicated since my husband's business declined.

the household with a steady income (peanuts).

heyfea

Hello to all,

I haven't been able to visit the forum in a long time. Life has gotten complicated since my husband's business declined. I'm the only one in

the household with a steady income (peanuts). On top of that I'm also the only one who does house chores. I'm getting worn out by the

weeks, no longer by years. But there's another worry which fell upon me and is that my mom got a stroke, heartattack, she had a horrible

infection, plus was dehydrated when found. I really thought she was going to dye. She has since recovered very slowly, more than two

weeks in the hospital already. I'm glad she's coming along, but there is an issue that arose in the hospital. She had with her her health

care proxy given to her to fill out by the WT in which she named one of her elders as her proxy.

Can you believe that the hospital will not provide her children with any health updates about her because our names are not in the proxy?

I spoke to her social worker regarding this document my mom signed really not knowing everything the document will imply, in other words,

my mom was dupped, deceived, brain washed. All the social worker could tell me is that she needed to protect my mother's rights and that

what my mom signed, she signed, and it needs to be respected. She made me look like I was trying to manipulate my mother into changing the

proxy. In any case, she said that a psychiatrist has to evaluate my mom to see if she is fit to make decision before anything could be changed.

My sister and I are fuming because we were told that if, God forbids, my mom died, we were not going to be informed. The hospital will only

inform the person named in her proxy. We are pissed! I feel like telling that stupid elder named in her proxy to come and change her diapers

if he's so concerned about my mom, or to pick up any bill not covered my Medicare.

I think the WTS doesn't tell the rank and file what these documents represent. They should be accountable for what they make the brothers

sign.

Has anyone heard of something similar? How was it handled? I'll appreciate any light into this subject. I'll check for responses soon.

Thanks in advance

Heyfea

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could you get a used car VIN report for free?

by heyfea in

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does anyone know if there is such thing as a free vin report?

if not, where can i get a least expensive one?.

heyfea

Hello all,

does anyone know if there is such thing as a FREE VIN report? Where can I get one? If not, where can I get a least expensive one?

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Can demons repent?

by heyfea in

it sounded very funny when my little sister asked my mother during their weekly bible study (some 25 years ago) what would happened if satan repented?

my mom thought she was being a smart-ass and punished her for asking such thing.

but now that i think about it, can any of these fallen angels repent?

heyfea

WOW. Thanks for all your replies.

There was a statement made that Satan cannot repent because he was perfect when he made his decision to sin. If this is true, then it means that no matter how long a time goes by, Satan will not come back to God. Therefore, in that case, why did God allow Satan into His congregation of angels in heaven? Could there be an indication that perhaps Satan was given a time frame to change his ways?