Have your disassociation letter ready, but do not give it to them until they excuse you from the judicial committee room just before they inform you of their decision to disfellowship.
Smiles
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RICHIE RED ALERT
by RichieRich ini was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
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Funerals: GB vs. Publisher diff - Memorial Talk for W. Lloyd Barry
by What-A-Coincidence inhow a funeral talk differs from a gb to a regular pub... or you can talk about the comments made about l. barry.
in 1952 he was appointed as branch overseer, and served there until he was invited to serve on the governing body in .
" this was very true of bro.
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Funeral talks for the "anointed" are usually difficult to listen to or in this case, read. Especially when one of the "anointed" is giving the funeral talk.
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RICHIE RED ALERT
by RichieRich ini was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
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Smiles
Richie,
Why don't you go to the judicial committee to face your "accusers" and reveal the identity of the lurkers that have been watching your activities on this web site. We would all like to know who they are.
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RICHIE RED ALERT
by RichieRich ini was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
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Smiles
They are going to take you down this time Richie... for apostasy AND theft.
You better have a voice recorder handy.
The holy spirit is closing in.
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I love the footnote in the first scan.
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Who has the new publication: What does the bible REALLY teach?? Need Scan
by Lady Liberty incan anyone out there scan from the first chapter of what does the bible really teach book?
it is a newer publication.
aparently on another thread, chapter one explains why questions are good to ask of your religion.
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The review question on paragraph 23 is a good one:
"Why should you continue to ask questions about what you are learning?"
Answer:
23 Of course, there will be things that you do not understand at first. It can be a little humbling to ask for help, but do not hold back because of embarrassment. Jesus said that it is good to be humble, like a little child. (Matthew 18:2-4) And children, as we know, ask a lot of questions. God wants you to find the answers. The Bible praises some who were eager to learn about God. They checked carefully in the Scriptures to make sure that what they were learning was the truth.—Acts 17:11.
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New WT publication encourages "questioning"
by Smiles inmany here have been reproved or disfellowshiped for asking questions about the bible and the jw interpretation of it.. after encouraging the asking of questions, one of the newest wt publications states: "others worry that asking questions could lead to shame or embarrassment.
and some decide that such questions are best left to religious leaders and teachers.
that quote is found in the first chapter of the new publication that all congregations will begin studying each week at their congregation book study.
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And the WT publications used with people studying with JWs should also state that "some of our teachings may eventually change from time to time, when they do, you must unquestionably accept the spirit directed change or face explusion and shunning."
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Disturbing similarity between JW and Islaam
by Smiles in.
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http://www.islaam.com/article.aspx?id=312.
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Smiles
Walk up to a presiding overseer and start comparing the WT teaching and practices to Islam and see what happens.
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New WT publication encourages "questioning"
by Smiles inmany here have been reproved or disfellowshiped for asking questions about the bible and the jw interpretation of it.. after encouraging the asking of questions, one of the newest wt publications states: "others worry that asking questions could lead to shame or embarrassment.
and some decide that such questions are best left to religious leaders and teachers.
that quote is found in the first chapter of the new publication that all congregations will begin studying each week at their congregation book study.
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Smiles
The WT should be up front with persons interested in studying JW beliefs as to what questions they will allow you to ask and what questions you can be disfellowshiped for asking.
You better ask all the questions you want BEFORE you get baptized. Because if you start questioning things after you get baptized, you will meet the all powerful judicial committee.
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Disturbing similarity between JW and Islaam
by Smiles in.
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http://www.islaam.com/article.aspx?id=312.
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Here are just a few more similarities between Islam and the JW world.
1. Associating partners with Allah (shirk). Allah Most High says (in the meaning):
"Truly, whosoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden the Garden for him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the wrongdoers there are no helpers." (Soorah Al-Maa'ida 5:72)
Calling upon the dead, asking their help, or offering them gifts or sacrifices are all forms of shirk.
2. Setting up intermediaries between oneself and Allah, making supplication to them, asking their intercession with Allah, and placing ones trust in them is unbelief (kufr).
3. Anyone who does not consider the polytheists (mushrikeen) to be unbelievers, or who has doubts concerning their unbelief, or considers their way to be correct, is himself/herself an unbeliever (kafir).
4. Anyone who believes any guidance to be more perfect, or a decision other than the Prophets decision to be better, is an unbeliever. This applies to those who prefer the rule of Evil (Taghout) to the Prophets rule. Some examples of this are:
(a) To believe that systems and laws made by human beings are better than the Shariah of Islam; for example,
- That the Islamic system is not suitable for the twentieth century.
- That Islam is the cause of the backwardness of the Muslims.
- Or that al-Islam is a relationship beween Allah and the Muslim. It should not interfere in other aspects of life.
(b)To say that enforcing the punishments prescibed Allah, such as cutting of the hand of the thief or the stoning of an adulterer, is not suitable for this day and age.
(c) To believe that it is permissible to give a rule from that which Allah did not reveal in Islamic transactions or matters of law, punishments or other affairs. Although one may not believe such things to be superior to the Shari'ah he in effect affirms such a stand by declaring a thing which Allah has totally prohibited, such as adultery, drinking alcohol or usury, to be permissible. According to the consensus of the Muslims, one who declares such things to be permissible is an unbeliever (Kafir)
5. Anyone who hates any part of what the Messenger of Allah [saw] has declared to be lawful has nullified his Islam, even though he may act in accordance with it. Allah Most High says(in the meaning):
"This is because they hate what Allah has sent down, so he has made their deeds fruitless" (Soorah Muhammad 47:9)
6. Anyone who ridicules any aspect of the religion of the Messenger of Allah [saw], or any of its rewards or punishments, becomes an unbeliever. Allah Most High says (in the meaning):
"Say: Was it Allah, and His signs and His Messenger that you were mocking? Make no excuse; you have disbeleived after you had believed." (Soorah At-Tawbah 9:65-66)
7. The practice of magic. Included in this, for example, is causing a rift between a husband and wife by turning his love for her into hatred, or tempting a person to do things he dislikes using black arts. One who engages in such a thing or is pleased with it is outside the fold of Islam. Allah Most High says (in the meaning):
"But neither of these two (angels, Harut and Marut) taught anyone (magic) till they had said, Indeed, we are a trial; then do not disbelieve." (Soorah Al-Baqarah 2:102)
8. Supporting and aiding polytheists against the Muslims. Allah Most High says (in the meaning):
"Whoever among you who takes them as allies is surely one of them. Truly, Allah does not guide the wrongdoers." (Soorah Al-Maaida 5:51)
9. Anyone who believes that some people are permitted to deviate from the Shariah of Muhammad [saw] is an un believer by the word of Allah Most High (in the meaning):
"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted of him, and in the hereafter he will be from among the losers." (Soorah Aal-Imraan 3:85)
10. To turn completely away from the religion of Allah neither learning its precepts nor acting upon it. Allah most high says (what means):
"And who does greater wrong than he who is reminded of the revelations of his Lord and turns aside therefrom. Truly, We shall exact retribution from the guilty." (Soorah As-Sajdah 32:22)
and He [swt] also says (what means):
"But those who disbelieve turn away from that about which they are warned."
It makes no difference whether such violations are commited as a joke, in seriousness or out of fear, except when done under compulsion (i.e. from threat of loss of life). We seek refuge in Allah from such deeds as entail His wrath and severe punishment.