Posts by Smiles

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Message on JW.org about Covid-19

by road to nowhere in

special talk by lett.

very serious ( for him)droning voice.

wife fell asleep.

Smiles

@rtn

Thanks for the spoiler. We just went to watch that and it was sickening.

Lett and his Branch office "yes men" spoke in a way that sounds scripted, insincere and weird as always.

One reason that JWs are dying from covid19 is because ordinary JW members are forbidden to retreat into the Watch Tower owned isolation fortresses where every necessity is delivered in for the GB and their BethElites, who enjoy a residences almost like a private all inclusive resort with healthcare.

While their own people are suffering and dying from this virus, the GB and their Branch puppets are using this as another opportunity to mutually stroke their BethElite egos and rally ordinary followers and JW elders into more fanatical obedience.

Watch Tower has its masses fooled into believing that the GB bascially invented the idea of washing your hands, and that video streaming apps like Skype & Zoom are loving blessings from the governing body itself.

There is a culty piece circulating online among JWs with a list of things that a JW can use to prove that the GB alone have prepared and protected their people from pestilence better than any other agency on earth.

The GB and their elites have gone on record declaring that they are not alarmed or frightened about this deadly plague.... Easy for them to say when they have self-quarantined inside Watch Tower owned all-inclusive fortresses.

So loving!

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Hot off the press - Maintaining Congregation Meetings During COVID-19 Pandemic

by pixel in

27:23; sfl chap.

(sfl chap.

Smiles

We agree with DD.

ZERO gatherings because that ONE over-zealous fool will attend when he is contagious...

Why cant they privately call on the telly to "encourage one another" one-on-one like rational people?

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CDC recommends no events of more than 50 people for next eight weeks

by Quandary in

jw
friends

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487702-cdc-recommends-no-events-of-50-or-more-people-for-next-eight-weeks.

let's see what "mother" directs in view of this latest news..

Smiles

Max capacity now reduced to 10.

Even that could and should change.

Reduce down to 3 max, and JWs wont be able to hold judicial committees hahaha

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Guns and ammo selling out fast

by JimmyYoung in

i went to my local walmart today and most of the can goods and frozen foods were sold out.

i did a web search from where i buy ammo from, lucky gunner, sg ammo, buds and others.

bulk ammo is sold out just over night.

Smiles

Cant shoot the virus lol

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The Evil Masterminds Behind COVID-19: Charmin and Cottonelle

by keyser soze in

of all the things people decided they needed to stockpile for a potential quarantine.

all of the stores around my area ran completely out of toilet paper this last weekend.

people were piling it into their carts and vehicles as if they were going to be holed up for a year.

Smiles

We have not seen any this insanity around our area, yet. Market shelves are still well stocked with paper products but sounds like that could change.

Lol @ 3rdgen

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Hot off the press - Maintaining Congregation Meetings During COVID-19 Pandemic

by pixel in

27:23; sfl chap.

(sfl chap.

Smiles

@pixel

Thanks for the leak.

Watch Tower cannot afford to lose more control than has already slipped away as a result of the global emergency, so the GB must now dictate what is discussed among small neighborhood groups and family groups.

Watch Tower is much too micro-managerial and paranoid to allow neighborhood and family groups to freely "encourage one another" without the discussion agenda being strictly controlled by the GB.

#4 in that letter about restricting JW Stream is a very telling point. Watch Tower cannot permit a single congregation to stream out meeting programs to national audiences of unlimited numbers because it would give that one streaming congregation an unfiltered voice and authority rivaling that of the GB via official JW Broadcast... a potentially mutinous risk that Watch Tower will not tolerate even during the unusual changing times of a global emergency.

Condensed, centralized control is critical to Watch Tower survival because when that centralization deteriorates, JWs will naturally unplug, begin to think for themselves and act independently. Same thing happened to early Christianity as the apostles lost their grip on the congregational groups, and also at JW HQ several times over the decades.

Due to this global pandemic, the future of Watch Tower trajectory now relys heavily on the performance of congregation elders deployed with marching orders to ensure each individual JW home keep minds plugged into the GB control matrix.

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May 2020 Study WT - more convoluted false prophesying

by neat blue dog in

the first two study articles of the latest wt raise the usual sense of urgency with more of the same theological quackery russell would be proud of.. first up, something we've always known, the embarrassing admission that jws think they are the center of the universe:.

even though god’s servants make up only a small portion of the world’s population, they are often at the center of major world events.

because satan and his entire system have one prime objective—conquering those who serve jehovah .

Smiles

Those May 2020 study articles have Maestro Splane written all over them.

The GB still emulate C.T. Russell in some ways with their occasional bizarre charts and convoluted interpretations, but the GB will also disavow Russell whenever convenient.

This is no accident. From time to time the Watch Tower has been known to publish convoluted teachings that overwhelm and exhaust us psychologically and emotionally, which can weaken a mind just enough to cease resistance and concede to the perceived authority. PIMI JWs will not detect this happening to themselves. They have been conditioned to affirm. This is why odd personalities like Splane and other authority figures can so easily influence minds that have already been manipulated to mindlessly affirm.

So when a convoluted interpretation like this one comes along, the PIMI JW will experience a circular reasoning something like this:

Brother Spane is a member of the Governing Body.

The Governing Body are Jesus Christ's spiritual brothers on earth today because Jehovah God anointed them with holy spirit.

Holy spirit helps the Governing Body understand deep spiritual truth.

Brother Splane is explaining deep spiritual truth.

Therefore, I will accept Brother Spane's explanation as truth even though I do not yet fully understand it.

After all, who am I to question Brother Splane? I am not a spirited anointed member of the Governing Body who are Jesus Christ's spiritual brothers on earth today because Jehovah God anointed them with holy spirit.

Holy spirit helps the Governing Body understand deep spiritual truth.

Brother Splane is explaining deep spiritual truth.

Therefore, I will accept Brother Spane's explanation as truth even though I do not yet fully understand it.

After all, who am I to question Brother Splane?

To break this PIMI circular reasoning, one must question Brother Splane.

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March 2020 Broadcast - Hard Push to Baptism. Why?

by Smiles in

the jw broadcast for march 2020 is a hard push for more baptisms, where mark sanctamonious sanderson makes ready use of the phrase "baptised disciples of jesus" instead of their typical catch phrase "baptised servants of jehovah".

the "jesus message" is somewhat unusual rhetoric for jehovah's witnesses.

why the big push for more baptism?

Smiles

@Dog

Very true. Decades of sidelining Jesus in the Watch Tower doctrines have really diluted Jesus in the minds of PIMI JW adherents. Even today, when listening to the prayers of any JW, particularly at their gatherings, any mention of Jesus is usually only at the end of their prayers and limited to a mechanical sounding "in Jesus' name, Amen" or "in the name of our King and Redeemer, Jesus, Amen." A few will go as far as to say "our High Priest, Jesus, Amen." Rarely in JW prayers will you hear much of anything else beyond that about Jesus, except briefly during the annual spring Memorial season when they really play up the "come to Jesus" message, which in reality is just an annual marketing strategy to get more people to "come to the Kingdom Hall" rather than really "come to Jesus."

And you are right about being eyed with suspicion for overemphasizing Jesus in talks and comments, as if that could be evidence of a JW "leaning toward apostasy." Too much Jesus will trigger red flags in the minds of PIMI JWs.

To outsiders reading this it may sound like crazy "apostate driven lies", but this really happens in local congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses. The JW love bombarding will quickly dry up, replaced by an increasing air of suspicion that often leads to a reduction of special privileges and an unofficial shunning of sorts. All that scandal from a person making a practice of merely emphasizing Jesus more than Jehovah.

This is another reason why some of us are a bit shocked to hear GB members now delivering heavily Jesus-centric messages on the JW Broadcast programs. Many a low level JW have taken flak for doing exactly the same thing. But when the GB or their "helpers" do it to appeal to a wider audience of potential converts, it's ok. Sad part is that PIMI JWs will not detect the hypocrisy, and if it is brought to their attention, the PIMI will defend it.

Similar to when Anthony Morris III was recently caught on video purchasing absurd amounts of hard alcohol on a lazy Sunday morning... If any other JWs had been caught doing that they could expect an impending discussion about notoriety, loss of exemplary status, and loss of privileges. But not so with TOMO3GB, he is still GB gold, maybe even platinum level. Although I was recently informed from a reliable source that Scotchgate was "dealt with internally." But this is for a different topic.

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March 2020 Broadcast - Hard Push to Baptism. Why?

by Smiles in

the jw broadcast for march 2020 is a hard push for more baptisms, where mark sanctamonious sanderson makes ready use of the phrase "baptised disciples of jesus" instead of their typical catch phrase "baptised servants of jehovah".

the "jesus message" is somewhat unusual rhetoric for jehovah's witnesses.

why the big push for more baptism?

Smiles

@Half banana

It would be stunning if the GB were to ever become that warmly responsive to the low level JW membership masses, but that seems highly unlikely because it suggests the GB would even scrap prohibitive doctrines such as blood refusal and same sex marriage for the simple reason of increasing membership numbers.

The GB has repeatedly taken a stance that their God Jehovah is not primarily concerned with the "numbers", as seen in the account of Noah... only eight persons being saved. Whereas if God were to have been primarily concerned with numbers and subsequently lowered the qualifications for salvation, greater numbers would have been saved from the flood of Noah's day. M. Stephen Lett has been a front man for that JW logic.

The GB has always been crafty, and will rarely depart from the JW status quo unless caught in a corner forcing their hand, as seen in their recent modifications to the 1914 generation doctrine, their acceptance of younger emblem partakers, and allowing women to be involved with consoling victims of sexual abuse.

There must be some other motivation for their shift to more Jesus and more water dunking. As suggested by you @Halfbanana and @Alanv, one possible motivation may be to compensate for embarringly sluggish statistics in other categories by ramping up the baptism numbers among children and niche under-educated populations.

Another motivation of the GB could be to appear as a more mainstream denomination of Christendom for legal advantages.

Or it may be just another WT attempt to rebrand itself while keeping within it's own tight doctrinal parameters, with the hope that dangling Jesus out there alittle more than usual may appeal to a wider demographic of potential converts.

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Judaeo Christian religious practices may have actually come from ancient Egyptian religoius beliefs and practices

by Finkelstein in

under close investigation of ancient middle eastern civilizations and their religoius beliefs and practices, there appears to be a connecting commonality derived from astronomical mythological beliefs.

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as shown through the documentary zeitgeist it would appear that these ancient civilizations plagiarized mythological beliefs from an original source to use for their own individual means and purpose, the ancient egyptian mythological practices being the originating source.. the documentary zeitgeist brings forth some interesting thoughts.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9ywr5tcjae.

Smiles

So, Moses and Aaron may have borrowed some of their ideas from their Egyptian observations... combining concepts?

ISis, RA, ELohim = ISRAEL