Posts by Smiles

memorial is upon us and looking for material to fi my next video.i wonder if you can help.i know there is a loose connection between black mass and the memorial because both desecrate and disrespect the host but does any one know when the arrangement of passing the bread and the wine started and by whom?.

Smiles

LOL@Simon

Same here. Definitely a WT WTF moment.

The absurd redundancy of that extra pass & repass ritual was always exasperating watch. Once I officially inquired about it, and was informed (in writing) that the practise was to allow for a partaking scenario... where if a server attendant or the speaker was a known partaker, or may become a new partaker, the emblems had to be served to him. A partaker evidently should not partake on the move as an roving attendant server, and the speaker should not serve himself to partake. They must receive it. Culty rule.

Imagine a server casually partaking as he walks an emblem up the aisle

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4 New GB Helpers

by Reservations in

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apparently 4 new gb helpers as per reddit.

1) paul gillies.

2) johnathan smith.

Smiles

Are WT leaders cult tapping more:

personality-admiring

boot-shining

creature-worshipping

yes-men

?

New a-holes...

Same manure.

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Randy's Leaked Bethel Video!--Do You Remember?

by Atlantis in

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randy's leaked bethel video, do you remember this post?.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/203579/watchtowers-new-entrants-get-hear-governing-body-share-their-qualifications.

if you have a copy of that video please send me a private message.

Smiles

“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy, and say to them, even to the shepherds, thus says the Lord God: Ah, shepherds of Israel who have been feeding yourselves! Should not shepherds feed the sheep?" Ez34

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Ants and Jehovah's Witnesses: The Elite Death Spiral

by Terry in

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what creates an elite death spiral?claiming special privileges by virtue of having been selected among others french élite "selection, choice," "chosen person" define the term privilege.

“rights and priorities over and above others” advantage granted, special right or favor granted to a person or group, a right, immunity, benefit, or advantage enjoyed by a person or body of persons beyond the common advantages of other individuals"question: how are the privileges of the elite conferred and by what right are they exercised over others?special knowledge (insight into useful secrets and abilities unknown and unavailable to others).oracle: "a message from a god expressed by divine inspiration through a priest or priestess," in answer to a human inquiry, usually respecting some future event.prophet: "person who speaks for god; one who foretells, inspired preacher," "the function of a prophet; inspired utterance; the prediction of future events," test of a claim of special knowledge: what is it?.

conditions: 1. completeness: a. both parties must be honest b. both parties follow the rules2.

Smiles

So true. That is how it happens.

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Randy's Leaked Bethel Video!--Do You Remember?

by Atlantis in

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randy's leaked bethel video, do you remember this post?.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/203579/watchtowers-new-entrants-get-hear-governing-body-share-their-qualifications.

if you have a copy of that video please send me a private message.

Smiles

Now that we have all discovered the ugly truth about Bethel HQ (egotism, betrayal, sexual depravities & suicide)...

As you listen to these governing body leaders resolutely glorify Bethel careers and tease lifelong incentives... Think about the many former Bethel workers that volunteered decades of their life obeying WT only to eventually be kicked to the curb (aka "reassigned") in their older age with a few coins in pocket, and some sent away with health problems.

These WT governing men were either delusionally ignorant of the shamefulness things happening under their nose, or they were deliberately misrepresenting.

If this leaked video is ever lost to time (again) here are some transcripts from that Bethel Entrant culty conditioning by the JW leaders of the 1990 era.

If are not PIMI, their remarks may twist your gut:

Daniel Sydlik00:02:20"If you're new here, you have the prospect of a wonderful future ahead of you."

Daniel Sydlik00:03:25"You are a valuable asset, and your value increases the you are here."

Milton Henschel00:03:55"My job was mixing concrete... mixing concrete. And I mixed and mixed and filled the wheelbarrows, and they never seemed to get enough, but we got the building done. And so, there I was, eh, I was 15 years old at that time."

Daniel Sydlik00:14:29"When I see a young man coming to bethel, my heart within me races up with thanks to Jehovah, because I say: 'my, this man is going to have a wonderful life here at bethel if he just doesn't allow the physical life to disturb him."

Carey Barber00:06:11"Brother (unclear) told us to hurry up and get the covers on the booklets because Armageddon was, uh, coming. So, we hurried up and got the covers on, and Armageddon hasn't got here yet, so..."

Karl Klein00:10:40"But then remember, these people are imperfect. You may be misunderstood or even mistreated or sumpin'." (sic)

Daniel Sydlik00:12:02"And this wholesome family touch is what the bethel family needs, and I think that is what the congregation gives to them."

Lloyd Barry00:12:26"Eh, coming to Bethel enables you to get a specialized education in the field of, eh, uh, pub...lication, and publishing, and eh... eh... being educated, eh, in office handling and administration. But, and above all, eh, having an education, a bible education to, eh, equip you to be a proper representative of Jehovah God, and wherever you're sent in the world."

Milton Henschel00:15:39

"I remember some brothers that, I think, eh, when I was first in the factory, I saw them, they'd been here for maybe 15 years already, and they were on the cleaning crew, and 15 years more passed, and they're still on the cleaning crew, but they appreciated it, they were not at all discouraged by that, and I'm thinking I'm not doing anything, because when you're keeping the place clean, you're keeping the family healthy, and when you keep the family healthy the family produces books and magazines. This is why we appreciate all of the members of the bethel family because they're an essential part of the function of this organization."

Theodore Jaracz00:16:05"But the longer one stays at Bethel, the greater the privileges and blessings will be."

John Barr00:16:37"I would say without hesitation, its a tremendous loss if a brother who has been trained to do a job decides to leave bethel. It may be necessary, but if at all possible, I would urge of the brothers who have quiet skills in bethel to remain."

John Barr00:17:44"But I've always looked at it this way: Whenever you receive a direct invitation like that from Jehovah, through his organization, that this is the place that he wants you to serve. And I've never been disappointed."

Lyman Swingle00:18:17"Die with your boots on."

Lloyd Barry00:18:54"Eh, you can appreciate that there is nothing here on this earth to compare with God's organization. There's never been anything, even back in bible times, to compare with what Jehovah has now and what he's doing now."

Karl Klein00:19:08"That this is the greatest privilege anybody could have on earth, be serving full-time with the headquarters of Jehovah's organization on earth."

George Gangas00:19:42"I love to stay in bethel. Bethel is the best place under the sun."

Carey Barber00:19:48"If people go out from here and take up something else, they're not benefiting themselves any, eh. This is the highest privilege we could have."

George Gangas00:22:18"So you brothers, if you are at bethel, love bethel. Brothers and sisters, eh, we are going to live as long as Jehovah lives; and Jehovah never dies. You will never die. You will live forever. Think of that."
Theodore Jaracz00:20:33"Everyone who comes here, they're brothers and sisters related to us in the faith. They're dear to our hearts. That's why we highly esteem this family. We valuate them for what they are. They're the best spiritual assets we have."

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Randy's Leaked Bethel Video!--Do You Remember?

by Atlantis in

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randy's leaked bethel video, do you remember this post?.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/203579/watchtowers-new-entrants-get-hear-governing-body-share-their-qualifications.

if you have a copy of that video please send me a private message.

Smiles

Rewatching that video is triggering

20/20 hindsight.

The old batch of GB in that video are all dead now, but trauma caused by the indoctrinations & policies administrated by those old men continues to haunt so many of us here in this forum today; and the new batch of wacky GB charlatans today add insult to the injury.

Forwarded that video to some PIMI... they loved it. I mentioned how all those old GB were part of the "generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur"... but they were unphased. PIMI cannot (or will not) grasp the fallacy of it, yet. Maybe after another decade of new light & dashed hopes.

Thanks to Grandpa and Brother F for digging out that archive.

Emotionally bothersome video but therapeutically reassuring in that it is never too late to escape that phoney WT paradise

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Ants and Jehovah's Witnesses: The Elite Death Spiral

by Terry in

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what creates an elite death spiral?claiming special privileges by virtue of having been selected among others french élite "selection, choice," "chosen person" define the term privilege.

“rights and priorities over and above others” advantage granted, special right or favor granted to a person or group, a right, immunity, benefit, or advantage enjoyed by a person or body of persons beyond the common advantages of other individuals"question: how are the privileges of the elite conferred and by what right are they exercised over others?special knowledge (insight into useful secrets and abilities unknown and unavailable to others).oracle: "a message from a god expressed by divine inspiration through a priest or priestess," in answer to a human inquiry, usually respecting some future event.prophet: "person who speaks for god; one who foretells, inspired preacher," "the function of a prophet; inspired utterance; the prediction of future events," test of a claim of special knowledge: what is it?.

conditions: 1. completeness: a. both parties must be honest b. both parties follow the rules2.

Smiles

The Death Spiral began in 1874 with the idea of invisible Jesus.

How did we and so many dead generations of the past get caught up in that WT death spiral around invisible Jesus doctrines

Here is an old list of the GB maidservants as of 2015*
Committee	Name
Coordinators’	· Ekrann, John · Wallen, Robert
Personnel	· Grizzle, Gerald · LaFranca, Patrick · Molchan, Daniel · Walls, Ralph
Publishing	· Adams, Don · Butler, Robert · Corkern, Harold · Gordon, Donald · Luccioni, Robert · Reinmueller, Alex · Sinclair, David
Service	· Breaux, Gary · Dellinger, Joel · Hyatt, Seth · Mavor, Christopher · Perla, Baltasar, Jr. · Turner, William, Jr. · Wallen, Robert · Weaver, Leon, Jr.
Teaching	· Curzan, Ronald · Flodin, Kenneth · Malenfant, William · Noumair, Mark · Schafer, David
Writing	· Ciranko, Robert · Mantz, James · Marais, Izak · Smalley, Gene · Wischuk, John