to maintain the facade of being a jw, when doing the ministry, are you not advocating for the gb?
the bible studies, after all are to get people to understand they can't gain life without the "faithful slave" ( you have to be baptized as jw to survive) .how does it make you feel?
if you are parroting an answer in a paragraph that you know is wrong, how does it make you feel?
@Kgirl
You make some interesting points, from an ethical perspective; but why the scriptures strategically plugged in throughout your paragraphs? It reads a bit like a WT study article.
Do you expect the forum to sit down and bible study the verse citations while we read your post?
Are you POMI?
to maintain the facade of being a jw, when doing the ministry, are you not advocating for the gb?
the bible studies, after all are to get people to understand they can't gain life without the "faithful slave" ( you have to be baptized as jw to survive) .how does it make you feel?
if you are parroting an answer in a paragraph that you know is wrong, how does it make you feel?
Without PIMO JWs we would not be receiving the steady stream of WT document leaks received these days.
PIMO JWs can also perform helpful relief efforts from inside the WT cult. PIMO elders are often very compassionate, and can be valuable advocates during times of dissonance.
PIMO bethelites may eventually rise to offices of highest authority where they could possibly reform or dismantle the harmful features of JW culture.
It is entirely asinine to here criticise JWs that choose a PIMO approach, which in most situations is intended to better situate themselves, or compassionately preserve marital union and other beloved relationships; which rightly take precedence over acronym.
It is not always a black & white "in or out" issue.
Religiously "divided" households can certainly coexist happily peaceful, and it is a beautiful magnanimous thing when it can be achieved. Good on them.
Freedom of personal belief is a human birthright. It is also a private decision.
Disgraceful that any here would denounce or assign guilt to "PIMO"...
PIMO should be commended for awakening from the WT cult cocktail, and subsequently navigating a careful retreat that they find is best for themselves and their loved ones.
That being said, PIMO should not be confused with WT apologism, which is rightly excoriable.
here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
enough IS enough
as far as i know ramapo and one in australia are being built.
while on the topic i saw a leaked letter, that the average publishers won't be invited to be actors.
( ahh!
"As stated in the 2020 annual meeting, it is likely this series [WT Jesus series] will be used to touch the hearts and minds of billions of resurrected ones in the coming new world." - Ronald Curzan, Helper to the Teaching Committee
here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
the org.
was all too willing to emphasize to the government - especially the left that they very obedient to the calls for mask, vaccine, and lockdown mandates.
those that know about the great reset know what i'm talking about.
WT has been compromised, no doubt.
here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
Placebo was randomized into the jab lots. That is standard procedure for experimental pharmaceuticals, and is also why a person may experience neither risk nor benefit.
The CV19 "vaccine" was, by definition, an experimental pharmaceutical, and could be administered on a massive scale only by way of emergency authorisation which temporarily relaxed standard research & development safety protocols for experimental pharma. In 2005, revisions to the legal framework of International Health Regulations pertaining to phases of a "pandemic" were enacted which were later cited during CV19 to justify declaring a state of emergency and introduction of the jab.
The general public itself, once accepting injection, unknowingly became the safety trial of an emergency experimental use project.
Under normal circumstances, experimentations should PRECEDE introduction of pharma to the public masses. Safety trials (animal/human) require years of analysis. CV19 jabs lack such a proven performance record.
WT may never acknowlege liability for its mass endorsement of what is slowly becoming recognised as a broadly harmful experimental pharmaceutical.
Only if a sizeable number of jabbed WT elites and their wives mysteriously fall ill or drop dead (which they probably won't) might we ever see some sort of cunning backpedaling act from WT corporate.
WT spinsters will likely claim: 'we always said it is a personal decision, and regardless of our strongly slanted policies, ultimately YOU made the personal decision to bare skin for the needle.'
a forum is a place where people should be able to talk to each other, to question, to have meaningful interactions with others in a polite and educated way, to contribute for the growth of one another.
it seems that, here, there are some people who think that the others know nothing.
they have all the facts, all the truth and have the disrespectful attitude of ignoring concrete and respectful questions.
I agree with Mag. Don't leave the forum. Maybe enjoy a nice leave of absence, but please don't permanently leave us.
You may become one that helps another here to find greater freedom, or even the one that helps prevent a suicide.
The cult has left a deep mark in all of us, which, as much as we might like to believe otherwise, is probably still sometimes reflected in our approach or reaction to certain topics... Triggers.
Joao & Fisherman (as most of us) are at their own distinct places along their respective journey away from cult programming. Regardless, we all here exhibit human nature.
Heated debate has its pros and cons, but ideally, among mature opponents, learning occurs on both/all sides.
Some of us here recently had a discussion on the subject of heated debate as it relates to this forum [link?] and someone wrote (Simon, I believe) that an excellent principle to keep in mind here at this forum, is:
'strong views, loosely held'
In other words, be firm, but always hold the flexible card up your sleeve because you just might eventually see advantages to adopting other points of view.
I've been a member here over 20 years, and my strongly held views on some things have transformed based on things read/debated here at this forum... and I am appreciative for it. Why?
We were deprived of critical thinking and debate in WT cult captivity... Perhaps that is one reason why some here may tend to resist critical thinking on assorted challenging questions.
Give it more time!
Try to have some fun!
"At times, well-known representatives of the Christian congregation—perhaps circuit overseers, Bethelites, members of the Branch Committee, members of the Governing Body as well as their helpers—may attend a convention or theocratic event that we also attend. Naturally, we want to show such brothers and their wives due respect. None of us would want to imitate the attitude of Diotrephes. He refused to welcome the visiting brothers with respect. (3 John 9, 10) But could we, even unintentionally, show a lack of good manners by going to the opposite extreme? How might we do that?
While we appreciate having an opportunity to meet and talk with visiting brothers and their wives, we would show a lack of respect if we treated such ones as celebrities. For example, would it show good manners to take candid photos of such ones—without permission—while they are eating and engaging in other activities? Would we ask them to autograph our books and Bibles? Would we push in front of others and aggressively demand that our photo be taken with them? Surely, none of these actions display true Christian love. Rather, they could show that we have missed the purpose of the visit and the hard work that such faithful ones do in our behalf. What effect could such behavior have on those attending one of our assemblies for the first time?"
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&docid=2016046&srctype=wol&srcid=share&par=50
a woman looks out in her back garden and sees a 3 seater sofa and 2 armchairs sitting on her lawn.. she calls her 12 year old son and asks, "do know where they came from?".
the boy replied, "i got them from a man i met just down the road.".
the mother shouts at him, "what have i told you about taking suites from strangers?
