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  New JWD members on the Horizon!

  by Sign oTimes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soon (if they haven't already) local congregations of jws will welcome newly disillusioned former members of the bethel family.

  the most potentially dangerous have been paid off already (but what do you mean?

  weren't we all given severances equally proportionate to our years of devoted service?

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  ''The most potentially dangerous have been paid off already''

  That did not work with Raymond Franz. The WT is too greedy to pay out enough money to keep disgruntled Bethelites quiet. It would take huge sums of money and perks which could be traced. If one of the "most potentially dangerous" ex-Bethelites discloses seriously damaging information, the WT will direct the local congregation to form a judicial committee and disfellowship the rat for causing divisions and apostasy, just like they did with Barbara Anderson.
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  millions now living will never die?

  by headmath in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i always found that line confusing, look at this:.

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  1920 "based upon the argument heretofore set forth, then, that the old order of things, the old world, is ending and is therefore passing away, and that the new order is coming in, and that 1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old and the beginning of reconstruction, it is reasonable to conclude that millions of people now on the earth will be still on the earth in 1925. then, based upon the promises set forth in the divine word, we must reach the positive and indisputable conclusion that millions now living will never die.

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  Each day that goes by more and more of those millions who "will never die" will die. In a few decades, after ALL those millions are dead, only fools will be JWs.
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  The Point of No Return

  by JW_Researcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in your experience, at what point will a jw bible student become a convert?

  what is the tipping point?

  for example, is it the number of studies?

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  The fear of leaving is greater than the pain of staying.

  So true.
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  Kingdom Servie Yearly Notice to Register with Selective Service

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the june, 2006 issue of "our kingdom service" is available for download at reexamine.org.. this issue contains the yearly reminder for young men to register with the selective service.. here is the exact announcement.. from: our kingdom ministry, june 2006, page 3. u.s. selective service regulations require that all men register at the post office within 30 days after reaching 18 years of age.

  a male noncitizen under the age of 26 who takes up residency in the united states must also register with selective service within 30 days of becoming a resident.

  all of those required to do so should comply with this law, viewing it as a christian's obligation to the superior authorities.

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  Good question VM44.

  The reason WT makes the announcement in the KM encouraging all young JW men of age to register with the Selective Service System goes back to 1918 when J.F. Rutherford and seven other WT leaders were indicted and taken in custody on federal charges of conspiring to violate the Espionage Act of June 15, 1917. The allegations behind the federal charges were that the WT leaders were conspiring to obstruct the recruiting and enlisting of men in in the U.S. Armed Forces during a time of war. The WT leaders were convicted and each sentenced to about 80 years imprisonment. They appealed and the U.S. Court of Appeals in New York later ruled that the WT leaders did not receive an "impartial trial" and a new trial was ordered which never happened. The WT portrays this as evidence that the WT leaders were not guilty, but the U.S. attorney for the case, L.W. Ross, officially stated in writing that he did not want to pursue the new trial because of the possiblity of it causing the U.S. government negative relations with the general public, not because any of lack of evidence. All of this can be read in documents recorded with the U.S. National Archives.

  Ever since those federal indictments and convictions, WT leaders to this day are very careful to cover their ass when it comes to their published view of registering with the U.S. Selective Service System. The WT encourages young men to register, but if those same young men are imprisoned for refusal of duty in the armed forces, the WT will imply the young men made that decision to refuse duty based on their own conscience not because the WT directly instructed them to refuse, which could bring another federal indictment upon the WT, especially with the news laws in a time of war or terrorism.
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  Prediction of date for WT admin collapse

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  a group calling themselves the lord's witnesses has predicted the collapse of the wt administration in late may/early june of 2006. you can see their prediction timeline at their website.. http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding101.html.

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  A group calling themselves the Lord's Witnesses has predicted the collapse of the WT administration in late May/early June of 2006. You can see their prediction timeline at their website.

  http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding101.html
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  The LWs and the True Bible Code?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  march 21, 2008 - after a lengthy calculation based on the bible, a british group, the lord's witnesses, has concluded that the start of armageddon will happen on this day.

  three quarters of the world's population will die during the subsequent war.

  this will be preceded by the united nations taking over complete control of the world in the lunar month preceding 2001-apr-24.

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  And the WT says there is no place to go if you leave the JWs. You could get the same stuff with the LWs.
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  The LWs and the True Bible Code?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  march 21, 2008 - after a lengthy calculation based on the bible, a british group, the lord's witnesses, has concluded that the start of armageddon will happen on this day.

  three quarters of the world's population will die during the subsequent war.

  this will be preceded by the united nations taking over complete control of the world in the lunar month preceding 2001-apr-24.

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  March 21, 2008 - After a lengthy calculation based on the Bible, a British group, The Lord's Witnesses, has concluded that the start of Armageddon will happen on this day. Three quarters of the world's population will die during the subsequent war. This will be preceded by the United Nations taking over complete control of the world in the lunar month preceding 2001-APR-24. This is exactly 666 Hebrew months after the founding of the United Nations in 1945.

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm

  When I first read this it sounded like something the WT would have published. The Lord's Witnesses are a group that seeks to attract dissident JWs. The LW's are not all that different from JWs with a few exceptions. The LWs have an informative web site.

  http://www.truebiblecode.com/

  Has the LW group been discussed here?
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  UPDATE: Semi-Back-in-Business

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over the past couple of weeks, i've learned a lot about myself and those around me.

  life might suck, but life moves on.. mom's grip is weakening, prob.

  because she's getting tired, or because she's beginning to realize how things are.. not everything i have done is admirable, but its done.

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  Richie, will the Flock book fit in your P.O. Box? We would hate to see the delivery guy bend the book in half and jam it in the box. That would be bending the rules.
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  Judah Ben Schroeder (Albert's son) will soon graduate Law School

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just found this on e-watchman's forum.... http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=822&st=40.

  judah shroeder was listed as deputy director of public affairs as of 2000 and was heavily involved in helping the organization defend itself .

  against russia and france.

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  Judah-Ben Schroeder? What were they thinking when they named him Judah Ben? Did they think he would become the WT Messiah?

  Judah-Ben's father, JW Governing Body member Albert Schroeder, was obsessed with prophets and prophecy. He wrote the bulk of the Revelation Climax book. Why didn't he just name his son Albert Jr? It had to be a lofty Hebrew Bible name. They must have had big plans for Judah-Ben.

  Raising a child at Bethel is not truly raising a child. Everything, including a college education, is included at no charge for the children of the WT elite. And to think we paid for it with our donations.

  All other Bethelite couples that get pregnant are dismissed from Bethel to go struggle to raise their child in the real world. Missionaries, circuit and district overseers will also get laid off it their wives get pregnant. What will happen if Judah Ben has a child?

  I hope the WT made the privileged Judah Ben sign a life long contract.
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  Operation Falcon II

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-27-operationfalconii_x.htm?csp=24.

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  http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-27-operationfalconII_x.htm?csp=24