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  do you think that there is a big exodus due from t

  by dannywalsh in

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  i dont know about you guys but im starting to get the feeling that a big fallaway is on the cards in the wt world what with all the recent scandals and the advent of the internet , information is so readily available to those in developed countries ,i feel that especially in developed nations the wt will suffer huge losses due to apathy and their extreme stand on so many issues, that many will become sick and tired of the wt treadmill of life which is so far away from the simplistic beauty of biblical christianity what do you think?

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  I posted this information on another thread

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43884&site=3

  It links over to the board I am refering to. There is a lot of information online about the shrinking of Christianity.
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  do you think that there is a big exodus due from t

  by dannywalsh in

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  i dont know about you guys but im starting to get the feeling that a big fallaway is on the cards in the wt world what with all the recent scandals and the advent of the internet , information is so readily available to those in developed countries ,i feel that especially in developed nations the wt will suffer huge losses due to apathy and their extreme stand on so many issues, that many will become sick and tired of the wt treadmill of life which is so far away from the simplistic beauty of biblical christianity what do you think?

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  Christianity as a whole is seeing a 33% drop worldwide. Personally, I think it has to do with a lot of research disproving the Bible. When that happens, you take away the blind willingness to follow something that might not even be the word of God. There are large growths being seen in New Age religions that allow more personal exploration and the less responsibility to a central governing leadership. This is the information age and people know more now and have more information at their fingertips then at any other time in history. As for the WT, I see a 1%-2% growth for at least another five years or more. You have to remember, most of their growth is from children being raised in the religion and from poor countries with little access to outside information and help. In all though, they are not a fast growing religion or slow growing religion. The road is neither wide or narrow, it is just their and leading to a dead end.

  Edited by - whyhideit on 10 January 2003 19:39:26
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  Can the US police the whole world?

  by JH in

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  even if the united states is the only superpower, can it really make war with iraq, and tackle north korea, and keep an eye on china, and other countries at the same time?

  why does the us always have to take care of troubled spots all over the world by itself?

  why can't japan and south korea take care of the north korean crisis?

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  Personally, I think some countries are messing with us. They want to see us waste money, resources and time. Then when we have pushed it enough, they back down and know we will go away. Yet the wasted billions are already spent.
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  Self-righteousness = Mental illness

  by whyhideit in

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  i was living in a congregation in northern california when i was in my early twenties.

  in doing so i got to know this one family pretty good.

  they were the typical self-righteous witness, with a elder father and a pioneer son and daughter.

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  I was living in a congregation in Northern California when I was in my early twenties. In doing so I got to know this one family pretty good. They were the typical Self-righteous Witness, with a elder father and a Pioneer son and daughter. On it's own, these titles did not always mean someone was self-righteous, but there was more to these people that stereo-typed what I consider self-righteous.

  1.They considered what ever they were doing in the religion, to be what everyone should be doing. Basically, if your dad was not an elder and your mom and teenage kids were not Pioneers. You were not doing enough!

  2.They considered members of the congregation to be bad association. Meaning, that even people baptized and dedicated to serving the God Jehovah, were sometimes just as bad to associate with as the "worldly" children in schools and the "worldly" adults that they worked with.

  3.They often placed themselves up as an example in talks and parts. It was not unusual at assemblies or meetings to see this family interviewed for what they did and how they lived. Basically, even the congregation fed their ego of thinking they were righteous.

  4.Their views on certain rules and restrictions, often went a step or two beyond what the society even said. For example, instead of watching some PG movies, they only watched G rated movies. Instead of going to "get togethers" they only did small dinners at their home with people they considered equal or at least close to their level of righteousness.

  In all, this family did not have a lot of friends. Yet they did not have a lot of people who wanted to challenge them either. As many people were afraid to go up against them, with all that they were doing in the congregation. By chance I was able to get to know their son, when I moved into the congregation area. I did not have many friends and getting to know someone, was better then knowing no one. The boy was just like his father, and basically he saw bad traits or lack of effort in everyone in the congregation. One day though I was sitting their speaking to him, about how this brother was not doing as much as he should, and I asked him a question.

  "Do you think that Brother or family will make it into the new system?"

  To which he responded, "YES!" So with this in mind I have always been perplexed with something. Why do self-righteous people act the way they do, when they themselves will admit that others considered "less righteous" will get the same reward as them in the end? I have come up with idea after idea. In the end though, I have concluded on a personal level that people who are self-righteous are actually some of the most insecure people I have ever met. I also think they have a compulsive disorder to only do what they are told and are concerned that any level of thinking that goes beyond what they have heard, will lead to them bouncing out of control. Basically, I think people who are self-righteous are mentally ill.

  I looked into this family a year ago to see where they were now. The boy is a elder at Bethel and the father is a PO in a congregation on the Northern California coast. In all questioning about them, everyone I inquired to, responded in the same way.

  "They still think they are the best and most righteous family in the country."

  So I was not shocked to see that their mental illness has continued on at a healthy pace. I am just glad I do not have to deal with this sort anymore, as they honestly left a nasty taste in my mouth. After all, how long can you sit in a room with people who say 100% of the people in the world as not doing enough to serve Jehovah. When they only know about one hundred of them. As if six million Witnesses were not small enough group, these people wanted their God Jehovah to even narrow that down a bit more, to make them happy with themselves.

  Edited by - whyhideit on 10 January 2003 19:19:21
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  Officially Disassociated Tonight

  by Princess in

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  steve and i attended our very last meeting this evening.

  i wrote a thread a few weeks ago about our elder visit and their decision to announce that we were disassociated.

  they agreed to wait until we returned from our vacation so i could tell my grandma who still attends via phone link and so she wouldn't have to be alone in her devastation.

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  You sound like my wife and I, we would do it the same way.
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  Press conference made Las Vegas News.

  by LFitzwater in

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  http://www.kvbc.com/global/story.asp?s=1078253&nav=15mucbsd

  watch the video at this site too.

  note: edited by hawk to get everyone to the correct "url"edited by - hawkaw on 10 january 2003 13:27:43.

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  http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=1078253&nav=15MUCBSd

  I found it here, the link you mentioned took me to a e-mail page.
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  Is the bible inspired?

  by JH in

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  what part of the bible do you think is pure invention, and what part do you think is true.

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  The Bible is inspiring to individuals at times, but not inspired by God.
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  Could you trust someone who has been sexually abus

  by Jesika in

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  abused to babysit for your children???

  i was thinking about this today, in light of my son's well being, being questioned.

  stats show that people who have been sexually abused go on to later abuse someone else.

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  I think you need to take everyone as a individual and not generalize anyone. I have met people who were abused, that I do not trust at all. I have also met ones that I would trust my life with, as well. Before you leave your children with them, get to know them and see what other people think. That will help you to get a good view of what they are really like.

  By the way, I do not hear it mentioned on hear much, but a huge abuse factor that is happening a lot. Is children molesting children. So if you are only concerned about the adult babysitters, you better widen your examination to include the children they are with too. Children that are sexually abused, sometimes repeat the actions they learn on other young people. Not something most people want to admit too, as it is hard to be angry at the child. Knowing what drove them to the actions.
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  Does health insurance cover online prescriptions?

  by whyhideit in

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  i have been on a few message boards in my life.

  in doing so, i always run across something that makes me laugh.

  it happened recently on a political board i post on and maybe it happens here too.

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  I have been on a few message boards in my life. In doing so, I always run across something that makes me laugh. It happened recently on a political board I post on and maybe it happens here too. You are in the middle of a discussion and people come to a disagreement. They start to split ways and people side with each another and soon the prescriptions fly back and forth. What do I mean by prescription?

  It is the prescription of saying, "I think you need to get some help" or "From what I have read, I think you need to see a psychologist." Then people join in and start to try and examine each word that poster has posted and soon others are also offering their Internet prescriptions. It always seems to happen and each time I think it is so funny, because I see the image of a person going to the doctor and saying.

  "Doc, I need to talk to someone, because bumblebee45 on the political board says I have issues with anger. Then surfingitup said I need to have better control. I wouldn't normally listen to them both, but jammer5000 said I did too and he is always so correct with his views."

  I guess the point I am getting at, is that it seems amusing and odd to say these things. Because we don't even know each others real names in most cases. We do not even know each others personality either. After all, in my case, I spend maybe an hour on message boards per day, about three to four days a week. I read more then I write and I hardly say all that I would like too. I also say things wrong at times and forget to edit my words correctly. In that case, I find it hard that anyone in the world could know enough about any online name to prescribe actual medical treatment.

  I was speaking about this to a friend and we were wondering. Do you think we read post from other people and reflect our own insecurities into the voice we apply to their words? Meaning, we think we are overweight, so every time someone mentions something about weight. We think of our own personal criticism and experience and apply that to the words of a person we never met. In our case, as former Jehovahs Witnesses, we have been expelled from family and judged unfairly for our life choices. So we hear and read criticism with the same thought of what happened to us with elders and other members of the congregation. I say this, as often I read something someone said and think, "interesting , I see their point." Then I will see a follow-up that says, "I do not appreciate what you said and I find it insulting" and I will wonder, "did I read the same post?"

  and wonder what I missed.

  So with my experience online. I have learned many things about people, but above all I have learned that I do not really know people well enough to tell them they need a psychologist if they respond in a way that is not myself. If I do start to get to the point that I listen to online words from people with names like catchinrays or susie00058 and direct my life by their words and actions, and find myself thinking I know enough about them to tell them they need psychiatric help. Then maybe I will need a psychologist. As my actions and words, might be telling me that I need to listen to myself closer and not the words of strangers online.

  Edited by - whyhideit on 9 January 2003 21:29:40
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  Do you still like your user name?

  by JH in

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  at first when we joined, we all choose a user name that would identify us.

  we also had the choice of puting a picture next to our user name.

  often, some change the picture for a better one.

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  I would change my name all the time if I could. I get bored easy.