Matthew 6:7 [NWT] - But when praying, do not say the same things over and over again, just as the people of the nations do, for they imagine that they will get a hearing for their use of many words.
in every congregation there is always a brother who gives a marathon prayer.
in my congregation there was a brother whose prayers were so long that i decided to time his prayer with my watch.
it lasted about 3-4 minutes.
Matthew 6:7 [NWT] - But when praying, do not say the same things over and over again, just as the people of the nations do, for they imagine that they will get a hearing for their use of many words.
my husband, who's a ministerial servant, was approached by an elder and asked if he'd offer our home to become a 'book study' meeting place.. i'm a bit of a loner, and need lots of peace, quiet, privacy, and solitude; plus to boot you all know i'm living this sort of double life, you know, just doing the very minimum to remain a witness.. this is awful!!!!!!!!!!
i can't deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
take care!
Rig a few things up with wires and magnets to "demonize" them. During the opening prayer, a picture falls off the wall. "Sorry about that, everyone," you say. "That's never happened before...that's really weird." In the middle of the study, a crystal vase on the coffee table tips over of its own accord in full view of everyone. During the closing prayer, two more pictures fall down, revealing strange religious symbols (or smurfs) engraved in the wall behind them.
You'd only need to do this once, twice tops.
which watchtower teachings lack logic?.
i know you're all tempted to say all of them, but some beliefs if the facts were true, would be logical.. which ones that are supposed to be a logical consequence of a true fact are in fact not logical whether the fact is true or not?.
for an example of logical belief based on untrue or unprovable fact , if god created adam and all humans came from him,(supposed fact) he could pass on defects in his genes to all humans and we could all be "imperfect".this we could call logical.. a watchtower belief that lacks logic is for example jw's who go through armageddon or die and are ressurected to earth are not perfect but still have another test to go through, yet those who die and that go to heaven are perfect straight away and require no further testing.. so which teachings are based on beliefs that are not true and which ones are just not logical?
what did you do with all those bound volumes, song books, bibles, study books and such?
mine are all packed away in the shed.
What did you do with all those bound volumes, song books, Bibles, study books and such?
I piled them up in the middle of my living-room floor, sat down, ripped the covers off one by one, tore up the pages into confetti, and then put the whole lot into the recycle bin. It wasn't a huge collection, but it was a great cathartic experience nonetheless. Released a whole lot of anger and aggression. I highly recommend it. And I didn't even get struck by lightning once.
The only thing I kept was a copy of the NWT and the CD-ROM.
how many famous jw's are there???
musicians, actors, sports figures...etc... i remember george benson, larry graham (bass player for sly and the family stone) and van morrison being jw's.... .
anymore?
also Hank Marvin (The Shadows lead guitarist)
my prediction is that the watchtower society will rid itself of all undesireables and clone "theocratic" "ones".
imagine perfect little boys and girls!
perfect mothers and fathers.
My prediction is that the Watchtower Society will rid itself of all undesireables and clone "theocratic" "ones". Imagine perfect little boys and girls! Perfect mothers and fathers. Perfect single people. All united with one thought! ......Do you think this would make the Governing Body happy???
It would have the added advantage that "this generation" could be kept around for as long as necessary
i was just wondering what some people's favorite scriptures are.
one of my favorites is .
matthew 7:1-5 .
I was just wondering what some people's favorite scriptures are.
For some reason, I really like this one:
Exodus 32:11,14 (NWT) - And Moses proceeded to soften the face of Jehovah his God and to say: "Why, O Jehovah, should your anger blaze against your people whom you brought out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a strong hand?" .... And Jehovah began to feel regret over the evil that he had spoken of doing to his people.
Even the God of the Old Testament could be questioned and reasoned with.
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So why then did dubs believe that smurfs were helpers of Satan? I personally have no idea, so if anyone knows, would they care to share?
The "evil smurfs" tradition has been around for a long time, not just within the JWs. I'm guessing it started as a sort of joke, much like Evil Bert from Sesame Street (do a Google search for "Bert Is Evil" if you don't know what I'm talking about), but JWs seem to have been the only ones who took it seriously. So now all smurfs are literally demonized, and tales are told around the campfire of the smurf that walked out of a meeting. Presumably in years to come, the legends will speak of the evil Bert doll that got up during the public talk, cussed at the speaker, and started "Doin' the Pigeon" right out the door.
Cabbage-Patch dolls too. Stay right away from them, because they can turn really nasty.
just watched an episode of 80s sitcom 'married with children', al & peggy get mixed up with a gay couple, fairly funny stuff!
anyhoo.... there's a neat scene were al, answering his front door, says to himself 'i hope it's a jw cuz i feel like a nice deep chat' (or something like that) & he picks up a baseball bat as he opens the door!!
like i said, fairly funny stuff, but it got me thinking: what other tv shows/movies feature scenes with (or ref to) jws???
what other tv shows/movies feature scenes with (or ref to) JWs???
My favourite is an episode of The Simpsons where a couple of JWs approach the door and one of of them is just about to ring the doorbell, when the other one says: "Wait, Marvin, I just had a thought. Maybe we're bothering people by trying to change their religion. What if we don't have all the answers?" He replies "You're right, Noreen. Let's go get real jobs." and they throw their books and bags to the ground and walk off.
1. why is anyone ever invited to 'the special talk' when it was always the most boring canned talk of the year?.
2. why is anyone ever invited to the memorial?
it's got to be the most confusing meeting for any new ones to listen to and no one hardly participates as christians are encouraged to do.. 3. i once gave a talk in a kingdom hall and on the stage was an american flag!
I once gave a talk in a Kingdom Hall and on the stage was an American flag! Did anyone else ever see such a thing?
It was probably a prop that someone else had been using (or was going to use) for their talk. I remember once visiting a KH in a small country town I was visiting, for the Sunday public talk & WT study. Surrounding the podium was a bizarre array of pumpkins, pineapples, cans of baked beans, bottles of ketchup, etc. I thought, "What the devil is going on here...?" It turned out that the subject of the talk was "spiritual food" provided by the WTS and the speaker had decided to insult the audience's intelligence by showing them what "literal food" looked like, just in case they were confused.
Speaking of props, I remember one time seeing a brother doing a student talk in the Ministry School. He had intended to bring a prop with him to do an illustration which would form the basis of his talk... some sort of tool - a spanner I think... but he forgot to bring it on the night. So instead of just improvising, he held up his empty hand and said "Uh, I forgot to bring it, but imagine I have a spanner here..." and he kept holding up his hand and referring to this imaginary spanner throughout the talk.