today there is a lot of hope placed in a vaccines to immunise against covid 19 , and relief that they are soon to be available.
that will be shared by the eight million or so jws in this world.
they should be thankful that the wts has moved away from its teaching ,that lasted for decades , proclaiming that vaccination was wrong, and a tool of satan.
Most JWs have little knowledge about the crazy past of WTBTS, little understanding of the orgs. position on blood/blood fractions and no understanding of the detailed doctrinal beliefs (things like Joels
Sadly, I have to agree with this . It wasn’t until I started visiting apostate sites that I began to see JWisim for what it was. At best just another religion. It still astounds me at how little I really knew considering I had been in the religion for decades.
so remember how assembling together is a command and no man or government can stop us, even if it means going 'underground', even if means being arrested, jailed, beat....can't stop us from assembling together----until covid.
now it's "false regligion" fighting for their constitutional right to meet together while the jws seem to be perefectly happy zooming their lives away..
Isn’t it funny how been at the hall was were Jehovah’s spirit was. How been present at the book study would help the connective cohesion with our bros and sis, for the great trib. Heaven forbid don’t ever put any JW material, or worse meet a virtual JW, on the internet. My how times have changed, and the JWs are none the wiser.
i've had a few medical procedures.
once, i had a massive loss of blood and needed 6 units of blood to replace the loss.
however, i'm curious as to what ex's state to be their religion when filling out the required paperwork when being admitted into a hospital.
Roman Catholic, and proud of it.
hello all interested persons,.
whilst driving to work this morning listening to the radio, my ears pricked when the presenter began talking about jws.
it was on a programme which airs between 8.00 and 8.30 entitled am, and broadcast on the abc national radio.
Yes I have to agree with shepherdess. The redress scheme is just out of the question. It would bankrupt them. Trust me they have weighed the situation up, and it more economically viable to lose their tax free status than to pay out the victims.
i thought i would post an encouraging experience i found today.
i've been seeing a lot of 70-80 year old jws waking up, and their children are posting their experience on reddit.
these are old elders, pioneers, circuit overseers who have given their everything and finally at the end of their life, are walking away.. maybe the key to waking up is that a person has to have a deep sense of right and wrong.
I’m really in two minds about this. Will it, in the short term, be liberating in gaining his freedom or will kill him when the realisation sets in that he’s lost everything by been shunned. In the case of my my elderly father it would be an unkindness to wake him up.
so i was fortunate enough to have a wife that listened and saw what i was saying was true and that the cult is bs.
but i wonder how bad it is in a relationship that one goes out of the cult and the other stays in.
i can see that being a real issue for a marriage.
In dealing with my father. I sincerely hope he never wakes up. It’s the white elephant in the room that’s never talked about.
as thanksgiving is just around the corner, just about all the states are implementing total lock-down with high penalties on any citizen who disobeys.
but what is the deal with texas!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0fg5gqhvw.
I think basically it began to flourish through people
(a) Having a me first attitude and to Hell with everyone else. If I want to do it I’m going to do it and no one is going to stop me.
(B) People just not listening.
I live in a country where people did listen. The threat was taken seriously with immediate shut down. None compliance was meet with public naming and shaming on national TV, and court appearances. I think the results speak for themselves really. Covid is almost a thing of the past. I’ve kept my job, house prices are booming with very low interest rates, and the local economy is in good shape compared to other western countries. The present government that handled the covid situation, steam rolled the opposition in the elections a few weeks back, and it has been stated that the election was won on the handling of Covid. I don’t think it was a case of the opposition doing badly but rather the present government doing well. I must admit this was a major factor in my voting decision. I think for a relatively small country, of only a couple of million people, we are the envy of the world.
I’m my opinion this “to hell with anyone else attitude” can be seen with gun laws in the USA. Right to bear arms, first amendment, and absolutely no one is going to tell me anything else. Now, like covid, they have got a problem that is almost out of control. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5657575071678464/walmart-pulling-guns-ammo
Telling indeed.
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hello people,.
some time ago i made my first on this forum after i have just woken up.. i was very scared and honestly i am still amazed from the fact that i am still getting replies in the old thread.. here is the link to my previous thread: link.
I would just like to add to my comments about abstinence from various vices. I can’t help but think that a lot of the 18-30 year olds who learn the TTATT and exit, do so because they want to participate in these things. Usually with the lack of life skills, and little family support, they soon find themselves with dependency issues or in a less than favourable relationship.
Using myself as an example. When I left I was a lot older. I exited purely for intellectual reasons and not for physical. By and large I still live the same life style as I did when I was JW, just minus all the bullshit from watchtower.
I think young people who leave the jw thinking that they can now have a lifestyle with out rules. Can end up very disappointed
*** update 2020/11/21 ****.
hello people,.
some time ago i made my first on this forum after i have just woken up.. i was very scared and honestly i am still amazed from the fact that i am still getting replies in the old thread.. here is the link to my previous thread: link.
Couple of things would like like to point out.
You would be the envy of a lot of people here to have awoken in your mid 20s. Regretfully I was in my 30s before I walked out the door.
To DA or just to fade, that is the question. In my mind for what DAing accomplishes as opposed to what it causes. For the tears, stress and hassal both to you and your family I just don’t think it’s worth it. Please consider this carefully.
If your goal is to fade, then the less talking to elders that you do the better. Just be thankful you got out when you did, and move on.
I’d also like to reiterate, to abstain from alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and sleeping around. Also stay away from places that encourage this behaviour. Remember with freedom comes responsibility for our actions.
That’s my advise and good luck.
in a recent conversation with my dad, i asked how he was enjoying the zoom meetings.
he lives in a rural part of australia, virtually untouched by covid-19, in fact, the state he lives in has a limit on religious gatherings of 300, which could easily handle the average attendance of congregation meetings.
so i asked why don't they resume meetings as usual?.
Just to change direction a little, as I am in the same dilemma with my father. When you factor in his age, health, and mental health do you think he is better off left in JWorg.
In my situation, and don’t get me wrong here, I’m a rabid apostate, but I think it would be a huge disservice to his well being if he suddenly woke up or jworg went broke. To be honest I’m actually happy that he’s still in it.
