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  Pa. Has Charged 14 Jehovah's Witnesses With CSA Just Since Last Fall ! More Expected.

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwk6pxprkg&ab_channel=thethornbushwasblazing%26yetdidn%27tburnup.

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  Sickening really.
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  WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

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  a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

  to not do it anymore.

  it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

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  Jw / LDS have the opposite problems.

  LDS are the most wealthiest religion on earth. Surpassing that of the Catholic Church, and comparable to that of Apple / Elon Mosk. However, despite their wealth they have a more inferior doctrinal and historical foundation to the church. Many aspects of the church has now been proven to be false e.g BoA, Kinderhook plates. The LDS would more likely run out of members before it runs out of money.

  The JWs have the opposite problem. For a religion of it size,I'd say its assets would be quite modest. Well at least when compared to that of the LDS. However the JW theology has more credibility, as it was largely based on mainstream Christianity. With all the on going legal battles, I have to wonder how deep their pockets are. They would go bankrupt before it splintered into smaller groups.
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  JWhub

  by Mikejw in

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  i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

  you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

  i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

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  Just thinking, what ever happened to Atlantis. Atlantis was a prolific poster, and the all of a sudden nada, zero, zip. How and where did he get all his leaks from.
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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

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  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

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  I totally believe Wt counting methods are accurate and correct. It generally aligns with the census of x2, and the census roughly aligns with memorial figures, of around 20 million attendees. Weather you take 9 million Wt count or 20 million memorial count, it's entirely up to you
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  Annual Report

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  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

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  This reminds me of a time when, for a bible reading, I took a print out for instead of a physical bible. I remember at the time been told of publicly from the platform not to do it. I remember because I felt so embarrassed. My how times have changed.
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  Annual Report

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  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

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  Slim I would go as far to suggest that the JWs could even be bigger than the Mormon church. I heard recently that there could be fewer than 1 million temple recommend holders world wide.

  Interesting the lds just built a huge temple on prime piece of land not far from where I live. On the few times I've ventured into the city the temple car park is pretty much empty.
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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

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  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

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  However you explain away the high numbers of JWs in census returns, you should also explain why the same factors don’t affect Mormons or other groups.
  

  I like that reply slim. This particular subject fascinates me.
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  Annual Report

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  t seems that the collation of the reports is accurate at a higher level, but the information reported by individual members is likely more prone to error. This was even more the case when members had to report preaching hours and were incentivised to inflate the figures.
  

  I'm not saying that people don't bullshit about their time in the ministry. But what I am saying is that all this apathy (PIMOs) isn't been reflected in the census. The last census taken, for my country, it is still a solid x2 to what wt says. Clearly the birth/ POMI / fence sitters rate is superseding the apathy that exists with in, as demonstrated by the census. What other conclusion can you come to.

  I would estimate the truer figure of JW membership to be sitting around the 10-20million mark. Interesting the lds claims, last time I looked, a membership of 20 million. However activity rates for active membership, is at about 33% or lower =6.6 million LDS world wide The JWs just blow the lds out the door, even with a 25% Pimo rate of the 8.6 million.
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  In the church that I attend no counts are taken. From my observation it's the Pentecostal churches that have the full churches. But as to the quality, with regarding biblical knowledge/ principles, it would be quite a different matter, of the people attending. I think part of the reason for the rise of the charismatic movement is not so much the quality of bible principles but more the entertainment value. Take away the flashing light and the thumping music and they would be having the the same attendance issues as JWs.
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  Jeffro - I agree to a point. But you would think that this would be offset by all the half heartedness, and the growing PIMO population. This hasn't happened as with the case of the census regarding my country and Mexico.

  PIMOs aren't identifying as such when given the freedom to do so in the census. Unless the birth rate supersedes the PIMO rate. Another possibility is that there are more POMIs than there are PIMO.

  In any case you have anecdotally confirmed that WT is accurate with its counting methods. By agreeing that the census figure aligns with the Wt count, which is roughly x2. Wt under reports it membership, by not including kids. I could list a few other religions where this isn't the case.it won't be unti next years report, for comparison, that we can determine the effect on growth these changes have made.