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  Were early Gentile Christians familiar with the FATHER OF JESUS?

  by pistolpete in

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  2. bible

  the first christians were mainly of jewish decent and christianity began as a jewish sect.

  jesus was a thoroughly dedicated practicing jew who never suggested the launch of a new religion.

  jesus lived and died a dedicated jew.

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  Christianity was a 1st century Jewish messianic sect.
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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  I wish it had been the thing that woke me up. It vouldnn be if saved me a further 30 years of listening to nonsense.
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  Lawsuit: I said GB member Barr that my Bethelite stepfather abused me; he did nothing

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's an excerpt from the recent lawsuit deborah hines v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york et al (paragraphs 158-180), one of 29 known cases brought against the org pursuant to the ny child victims act.

  what should be kept in mind is that gerrit lösch apparently worked in europe (the austrian branch and eastern europe) at the time when the abuse was allegedly reported to him (not a gb member then).. plaintiff was raised a member of the jehovah’s witnesses.

  she primarily attended meetings at various congregations in arizona.

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  Like I said it all comes down to documentation. The proof is in the pudding.
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  Is this New Light coming or just some crackpot?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this experience was posted about a year ago.

  it seems like a crackpot co was giving his prediction of what "might possibly happen in the future" .

  now it seems like he wasn't such a crackpot after all.. quote.

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  I wanted to add, that this explanation would end the 1914 last days doctrine.

  If he got up and gave that explanation for a generation in a public talk. He would, very quickly, find himself in front of a judicial committee facing accusations of apostasy.
  
  
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  Lawsuit: I said GB member Barr that my Bethelite stepfather abused me; he did nothing

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's an excerpt from the recent lawsuit deborah hines v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york et al (paragraphs 158-180), one of 29 known cases brought against the org pursuant to the ny child victims act.

  what should be kept in mind is that gerrit lösch apparently worked in europe (the austrian branch and eastern europe) at the time when the abuse was allegedly reported to him (not a gb member then).. plaintiff was raised a member of the jehovah’s witnesses.

  she primarily attended meetings at various congregations in arizona.

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  If there is a paper trail of this. Wt is toast.
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  Unfaithful spouse

  by Worstfear in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife and i have been together for 12 years.

  married for 6. she was born into the truth, i studied for 2 years before we got married.

  we would attend meetings on a weekly basis, go to conventions, and memorial every year.

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  Throw her arse under the bus and report her to the elders. Then lawyer up, and protect those assets you have worked hard for.
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  Are you still a JW?

  by Iamallcool in

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  which one do you prefer?

  zoom meetings or at the kingdom hall?

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  If I was still physically going. I’d prefer Zoom as it would be easier to detach from. Just turn the camera off and fo what you want. Come back shortly before the meeting ends and no one is the wiser.
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  Interview with James Beverley on JWs

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just watched a video of an interview with james beverley entitled 'why jehovah's witness are losing members'.

  i thought it pretty good, although there are a few misstatements.

  here is a link:.

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  To know it you have to live it
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  JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just saw the following you tube video.

  it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.

  if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.

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  Vanderhoven7: You have missed the whole point. At least read the email that I have cut and pasted from an ex Mormon bishop, Simon Southerton. You need to watch the the video that was initially posted. That 16.5 million is so inflated it’s almost laughable. The example was given of the pacific nation of Tonga. With the counting methods used by the church, there can only be two outcomes.

  (1)Tonga could end up having more affiliated mormons, than what are alive on the island.

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  (2) The lds has got a massive problem with apostasy with its members leaving to join with another Christian denomination.
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  JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just saw the following you tube video.

  it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.

  if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.

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  I totally agree with you. Here are some quotes, I’ve heard from the past, that would sum up what you have said.

  The bonnets may be different but the engines are the same.

  Mormons are more fanciful but JWs are more dangerous.

  Mormons are JWs weirder older cousins.

  Doctrine aside, I agree that the JWs are more destructive. There would be few here that would disagree. Based on life style I would actually choose to be Mormon. My life may of turned out much different to what it is now.

  Despite the “JW world view been more dangerous” wouldnt this be testimony to how well they have taken their message to the world. I suppose a measure of loyalty that it’s members have to a cause, even if it is wrong.

  The point I was trying to make here isn’t, how a like or not a like they are. It’s a matter of membership. I think it’s been clearly demonstrated that the JWs have a bigger, more active and engaged membership. It’s impressive when compared to other more established and wealthy organisations, who by rights should have a bigger and more loyal customer base. This is simply not the case. Hare and tortoise really.