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  What Do They Have in Common?: Covington/ Muhammed Ali / Disfellowship policy

  by Terry in

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  covington / muhammed ali / disfellowship (what do they have in common?

  )“hayden c. covington, one of the most influential figures in the history of first amendment law.

  beyond the numerous first amendment cases he argued or co-argued in the supreme court, he also prevailed on behalf of the witnesses in over “100 decisions handed down by various state supreme courts, and .

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  A good read Terry
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  I bought a lot at auction of some JW books.

  by mickbobcat in

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  2. bible

  can i put a list of books up for sale here or is that verboten?

  i have some duplicates and bought this grouping because it had the book life in it.

  i am not trying to sell things here rather give ex jws a chance to buy at what i paid plus shipping for these old reference books.

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  All the Russel era (Bible student) stuff is quite sort after.
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  China About to Screw Your Life Again

  by Simon in

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  china's economy is wobbling as one of its largest companies, evergrande, is teetering on bankruptcy.. there's a good chance it's collapse will have a knock-on effect on other markets.. so more to thank them for than just the covid virus.. no one should have any dealing with china..

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  If China sneezes the whole world catches the flue.
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  Anyone have an obvious gay or lesbian in the congregation?

  by mickbobcat in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was a kid we had a kh with a basement and this guy joe winestien lived in it.

  he has passed away i believe.

  he was about 24 and used to hang around the young boys.

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  Just adding to the 5 cases I mentioned above. I know a further case of an elder. Outwardly he just screamed gayness. His now wife,before she married him, was warned by her parents about his femininity. He has now been happily married for 50 years to his childhood sweet heart, and has grandkids.
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  Anyone have an obvious gay or lesbian in the congregation?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a kid we had a kh with a basement and this guy joe winestien lived in it.

  he has passed away i believe.

  he was about 24 and used to hang around the young boys.

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  Yup have known of 5 cases. When they eventually came out as gay I was hardly surprised.
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  If you think Watchtower is disappearing any time soon…

  by Reservations in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you are sadly mistaken.. i hear people say it on here all the time, and dare i say his name *cough* lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….. we need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report.

  if we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:.

  by 2030: - 7,933,479. by 2040: - 7,471,357. by 2050: - 7,036,154. i agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the wt organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss.

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  This modern generation aren’t as afraid to google as we were.
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  If you think Watchtower is disappearing any time soon…

  by Reservations in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you are sadly mistaken.. i hear people say it on here all the time, and dare i say his name *cough* lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….. we need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report.

  if we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:.

  by 2030: - 7,933,479. by 2040: - 7,471,357. by 2050: - 7,036,154. i agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the wt organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss.

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  Also bear in mind that 1844 date is also referred to as the great disappointment. So its been openly acknowledged that the date was wrong for the end of the world. also this 1844 date was only one, of a couple of predictions, that proved to be false. The invisible presence had to be adopted by Miller just to save face. Interestingly, to this day, the SDA will openly acknowledge that this 1844 date was wrong regarding the end of world, but the beginning of the tarrying work (sheep and goats). This belief also is paralleled with the JWs.
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  Just saw the segment on the 4 corners documentary involving Erwin Zaklin

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  two observations here.

  (1) i just saw a segment on the 4 corners documentary involving erwin zalkin.

  the u.s lawyer involved in the law suites against watchtower.

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  Two observations here.

  (1) I just saw a segment on the 4 corners documentary involving Erwin Zalkin. The U.S lawyer involved in the law suites against watchtower. I couldn’t help but think how much he has exponentially aged. In the time that I have been watching him, for just under a decade, i was surprised at the accelerated rate at which he has aged. To be honest I thought he looked a rather frail, physically weak, old man. I guess dealing with WT has proven to be a tough nut to crack and has taken its toll. Just wondering if anyone else picked up on this.

  (2)For those Australians out there. Im curious about how the 4 corners documentary was received in the PIMI JW community.
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  If you think Watchtower is disappearing any time soon…

  by Reservations in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you are sadly mistaken.. i hear people say it on here all the time, and dare i say his name *cough* lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….. we need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report.

  if we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:.

  by 2030: - 7,933,479. by 2040: - 7,471,357. by 2050: - 7,036,154. i agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the wt organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss.

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  I would put it to the good people here that WT has done considerably well in its present environment. I would doubt the incidence of child abuse would be any greater, than say, the Boy Scouts. The mistake WT made was documenting it and their approach to it e.g 2 witnesses & Satans world. I watched the doco that aired in Australia last night and it was damning. This has to have an impact on wt. I believe they will probably go bankrupt before they lose their ideology.
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  Were early Gentile Christians familiar with the FATHER OF JESUS?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the first christians were mainly of jewish decent and christianity began as a jewish sect.

  jesus was a thoroughly dedicated practicing jew who never suggested the launch of a new religion.

  jesus lived and died a dedicated jew.

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  Christianity was a 1st century Jewish messianic sect.