I wonder how they would have a jubilee year, for a guy who had an affair with someone else’s wife, and yet no jubilee year for someone who still believes the old light on beards. Are there now clauses added into the jubilee year. I can see that been the only way of keeping those out with opposing views.
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The secret 10 year plan to save the watchtower .
by gavindlt inhttps://youtu.be/pszy22hzj8o.
new light?.
https://www.dadseekingtruth.com/.
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The secret 10 year plan to save the watchtower .
by gavindlt inhttps://youtu.be/pszy22hzj8o.
new light?.
https://www.dadseekingtruth.com/.
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joe134cd
The Mormon church has got much the same problems with survival in the information age. I heard recently on Mormon Stories ( John Delin) podcast. “The Mormon doctrine and truth claims as it stands today, isn’t sustainable long term. It needs massive reform if it is to survive.” Telling words indeed.
I was discussing this Jubilee year, with my unsuspecting PIMI Father today. His comment was it’s the principle that has to be applied. So I’m guessing this new light could be swallowed by the R&F. But then you either accept everyone back into congregation or you don’t, and this includes apostates. This could be problematic with acceptance of those who have different views to the guys in NY. Do they then get re-disfellowshipped, to be forgiven in the jubilee year. Do it goes on.
I agree with slim. About comparing it to other churches. In the church I go to if it wasn’t for immigrants attending, from poor Christian countries, there would probably be no one there. I have heard comments to effect of, “the church is devoid of Caucasian’s.”
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The secret 10 year plan to save the watchtower!
by gavindlt ini would not put this past the corporation at all!
yes this is at the root of there new light.
it’s called compromise.
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To go mainstream. They need to stop shunning, allow blood transfusions and higher education, and jetson 1914. I really can’t see this happening. But then again 10 years ago I’d never thought beards and FS reporting would be stopped as well.
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Just had a thought…
by Vidiot ini been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
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joe134cd
The Mormon church is going through a very similar thing. I heard a comment from a prominent lds podcaster John Delin ( I love that guy) that the Mormon doctrine as it presently stands is not sustainable long term. It needs repaid reform if it’s to survive long term.
Interestingly I have actually attended a Christadelphian church. I was shocked, to learn, that I could used terms and doctrine, that I thought was specific to the JWs, and they knew exactly what I was talking about. Just for the record the JWs did not develop out of christadelphianisim but out of Millerite advetistisim.
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Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?
by carla incan anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?
he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?
) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.
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joe134cd
Although not to the same level as TOMO3 or Ray Franz. Wt would certainly want to be cautious in how they play their cards with him. I think he could know enough to still do them some significant harm if he decided to go public. I would certainly be interested in buying a book if he decided to write one.
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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.
by Balaamsass inno doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
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I think they will curse the day they ever said that.
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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.
by Balaamsass inno doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
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I heard that all those elders involved in the Menlo park have now passed away. I’m guessing the loving treatment of WT had something to do with it.
I think probably what made that case so renowned was the lawyers comment about been like the Catholic Church. I think his comments done more damage to Wt credibility, than any monetary gain or loss.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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joe134cd
But out of that 110,000 subscribers, how many are ponying up the money.
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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joe134cd
They can’t throw him out on the streets. He knows all the inner circle secrets. They learnt the 1st with Ray Franz.
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want to show support to a one time member
by enoughisenough ini put this under beliefs, doctrine, practices but it could well fit under coverups, i think.
anyway fyi and if you are interested, a one time member here , easyprompt now has a youtube channel :easyprompt_fragrantaddendum exposing wt...i have watched a couple of them, and they are well put together..
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joe134cd
As I side point. I’d like to say that I’ve found the you tube channel “the blue envelop”, to be nothing but first class. Thoroughly well researched and put together. He’s by far the best ex jw YouTuber out there. NB// he was the whistle blower on Tony Morris were abouts.