Posts by JamesThomas

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

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for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

JamesThomas

Dear Cog, I too am enjoying your posts very much. You are expressing yourself eloquently. I was going to say this earlier but the thought skittered away from me.

I still often have these feelings of futility and existential angst.

It has been my experience that the universe expresses infinitely in form and rhythm; and the human psych is no different: good days, bad days, mediocre days....and sometimes long stretches of down days.

I have only found unconditional peace when I let it all be, and not identify with disturbance and disquiet as what I am.

Perhaps this is not so much about manipulating anything, as it is simply about quietly and gently discovering what we truly are...no matter how the universe, body and mind manifest.

j

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

JamesThomas

Purps:

This is part of the problem, trying to figure it all out. you need to allow "it" to happen. You feel it and experiance it.
Thats when the fight is over, the duality, if that makes sense.

It is the nature of the wondrous mind, to want to know things. Yet, the entire universe came into being without the mind knowing, or speaking, or figuring anything out.

Yes! there is often needed an allowing. An open willingness for a naked and vulnerable exposure to the unknowable that is before the mind and all that the mind believes "self" and "other" to be. A step beyond all duality; and yes, that is when the fight is over....though we may find from time to time we wrestle a little.

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

JamesThomas

Journey-on:

Now, explain to me in "plain English" what your true nature is? Is it physical, emotional, mental, spiritual, or all combined into something unexplainable?

Things can be explained; it's no thing.

What does all thing-ness happen within? What is closer than all experience of things? What can not be captured and defined by the mind into a thing? What is most real?

These questions can not be authentically answered by the mind. As nvr said: what observes the mind?

The mind may label it: conscious-awareness; and walk away thinking it knows what it is. The mind does not know what it is. The mind is too limited to ever know what it is.

When consciousness -- striped of the lenses of mental thought and interpretation -- clearly and genuinely sees itself, then you'll know what your true nature is, what you really are, and not a moment before.... and then you'll be stuck too with the impossibility of transferring it to words or thoughts.

You will know it as not different from the very same awareness which sees these words right now. You will know it for the unimaginable reality of purity, peace and wholeness you have always sought.

That's the best I can do.

j

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

JamesThomas

understanding that one is not defined by them

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

JamesThomas

I will add: what could be more of a valid purpose, than to live our true nature?

j

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What if you're missing the purpose?

by journey-on in

jw
friends

for those of you who espouse the philosophy that one needs to discard who we "think" we are and embrace the "reality" of who we really are, what if, there is a divine purpose to our miniscule existence in the here and now and that purpose is to experience the pull of opposite forces (duality), and you are missing it by not allowing yourself to experience the ego self?

what if you are missing the whole purpose of this pull of pain and joy by trying to suppress it or place yourself outside of it?

the below is a short story sent to me by a friend and it is an example of what i'm inferring.

JamesThomas

Perhaps some are interpreting that to awaken to ones true Identity is to become a zombie detached from the multifaceted expressions of existence. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

In line with what poppers already expressed, awakening to our real Self, dissolves the walls that make life seem as something separate and outside. We are the movement of life; all of it. Yet more than that, closer than that, we are the pristine awareness and stillness which all life moves and flows within. It seems paradoxical. It has to be experienced first hand.

I wouldn't allow anything we might imagine awakening to be, to detour us from discovering for our selves; as it is nothing the mind can imagine.

j

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The sacrifice of Christ to redeem humankind, Why?

by VM44 in

the perfect man and woman, soon after being created, failed short of god's requirements and so sin was introduced into the world.

according to the watchtower, god's law required a "life for a life" and so a perfect human needed to be sacrificed, i.e., killed, in order for humanity to be redeemed.. my simple question concerning this doctrine is....why?.

how does the death of a human, perfect or otherwise, help matters?

JamesThomas

Leolaia,

Yes, I agree that everything has a place.

There are many here who champion the Bible as if it is more than just literature, and place a good deal of their definition of self into it. Perhaps the gist of my post was just to rattle the cage a little. No harm meant.

I must admit that the Bible it not totally worthless, in fact the many years of my reading it taught me a very important lesson: that truth/reality is not found in ink and paper, no matter how sacred and holy people may believe those pages to be.

j

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Perfection

by purplesofa in

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i was talking to a friend of mine about perfection last night.. he made a comment that there was no way to have perfection, unless you made one thing and set that as perfect.

everything after that would be a copy and otherwise would always in some way fall short of perfect, the original creation.

we were talking about art.. and then he made a comment that god did not create us perfectly.

JamesThomas

That we believe our beliefs and opinions to be valid and true is to exist within perfect chaos, which the mind can easily interpret as "imperfection"; and in a way it is as there is an identification with the shot-gun patterns of thought rather than the coherency of our authentic foundational-nature.

As poppers said, genuine perfection already IS, when the concepts of perfection and imperfection (and all other dualities) are on vacation.

j

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The sacrifice of Christ to redeem humankind, Why?

by VM44 in

the perfect man and woman, soon after being created, failed short of god's requirements and so sin was introduced into the world.

according to the watchtower, god's law required a "life for a life" and so a perfect human needed to be sacrificed, i.e., killed, in order for humanity to be redeemed.. my simple question concerning this doctrine is....why?.

how does the death of a human, perfect or otherwise, help matters?

JamesThomas

Rather than getting lost in the minutia of Biblical whys and wherefores, it may be more beneficial to simply see the insanity of it all; and then choose to dwell elsewhere; perhaps living in reality would be a good place.

imo

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The ULTIMATE APOLOGIA

by Terry in

the most complicated, transcendant (outside of time and space) mind in the universe is the universe.. that is an antimony, by the way.. this mind we can call "god".

it simply "is".. what the consciousness of this mind considers is more real than the dreams we have or the plans we make.. that is the premise of what follows.

read on..... this mind (all) is considering creating heavens and earth.

JamesThomas

Thinking is a process our consciousness employs involving ideas. Ideas present objects of thought before the mind. So then, merely thinking about "self" or "existence" isn't possible because a process can't process a process.

Exactly. Can't get there via the mind.

Problem is we define "self" as the products of the mind, and so there is often inhibition to investigate into that which is not thought: the silent and mysterious consciousness that sees all thought.

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