EntirelyPossible,
I doubt that there is anything I can say to you that will change your perspective. But, fool that I am, here goes.
I can only say that there is real and valid information on the web that backs up my claims of the validity of LENR, and its near term commercialization.
We can both sit and argue all day, but only diligent investigation will answer our doubts. Don't you agree? That is why I have said from the beginning of this thread to please investigate. Sometimes important information is just not dumped in our fucking lap.
You ask if I have ever heard of "rule 34". As far as I can discern, this only comes to play when you are brain-dead and believe what is first presented to you, and so we have a "porn" of false information on the web to feed our fantasy. This has absolutely nothing to do with diligent research into the science of LENR, and the companies and the people who back them. Have you ever heard of diligent research?
What else do you want from me? Or a better question may be: what do you expect from yourself and your own learning abilities and willingness to investigate into things you may know nothing about?
I want to say that though I may seem a little harsh, I mean no disrespect to you or anyone. It is just that I am presented here and in other places, time and time again with the same arguments presented by people who have done no research and/or who refuse to. It's like hitting your head against a brick wall. It hurts.
JamesThomas
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
HintOfLime,
I understand your perspective and the pain that is behind it. I think we all know that if we continue the way of burning fossil fuels we are going to poison ourselves and our children to death.
It was in this spirit of a global sense of hopelessness, that I felt it necessary to begin this thread. There is a lot going on below the radar of mainstream press. So we don't here about it. But, thanks to the Internet these things can be found. We just need to investigate so that we separate the valid science which is being done from the scams and bs (and there is a lot of that).
Personally, from my own investigations I am very much assured that people far, far more intelligent than I, in fact genius scientists, who want to see their children grow up in a clean world, are diligently working on new breakthroughs. Breakthroughs which are just on the horizon. Closer than many of us may think.
In the near future I may have more to share along theses lines, in new and different threads. -
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
HintOfLime,
You said: I think the old expression is "Put up or shut up". If there are 'breakthroughs'... what are they? Where is the raw data, why hasn't it been verified, patented, and marketed?
Those are good questions. The reality is, is that raw data has been verified and patented, and things are scheduled to soon be marketed. In fact NASA has two patents on LENR, to name just a few from the many around the world.
Not to be disrespectful or mean, but rather to stay in the spirit of your thread, I would say: Investigate or shut up.
I didn't just start this thread on a whim, or to show everyone how talented I am at blowing bubbles out my ass. I've spent a lot of time over the last couple years watching and investigating this area of energy production.
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
NOLAW,
Also checkout Brillion Energy Corporation of Berkeley Calif. Just a few miles away from where I live. -
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
James woods,
I agree with you that LENR is rife with fraud. However, from my research: the biggest fraud is that there is nothing here to see...so move on.
Please research the latest data. See for yourself if NASA and others I have mentioned, still embrace the same old paradigm of twenty years ago or have drastically moved on in the opposite direction of validating LENR.
James, I could post numerous threads from major researchers who argue my point. But I'm not going to that. Rather, my hope is that those who are truly interested and want to be up to date will do the research themselves. That's the only way they can be really be convinced of a new paradigm of clean, life-changing future for humanity.
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
Razziel,
I have been following this technology for years, and did not just fall off a fucking turnip truck.
Please open mindedly investigate the latest breakthroughs. Unless, of course, you want to continue to fool yourself into believing that you know more than NASA or the MIT professor Dr. Peter Hagelstein, who has been running a LENR since January with an excess heat of 14x input power....just to name one of many LENR successes. -
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Very Good News Regarding Inexpensive Green Energy That Can Drastically Change Our World
by JamesThomas ini, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis.
i particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies.
technologies that can put a halt to our co2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
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JamesThomas
I, like many of you, love science and the new breakthroughs that are happening on almost a daily basis. I particularly am enamored by new nonpolluting energy technologies. Technologies that can put a halt to our CO2 emissions and also be used to easily scrub our atmosphere and waters clean.
Right now, there is a wonderful technology that the mainstream press seems ignorant of -- but yet is backed up by such institutions such as MIT, National Instruments, and NASA -- that looks as if it can offer us very cheap, pollution free energy in the very near future. Perhaps in as little as two our three years.
If you are interested, please seriously investigate LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction). This could be a major life changer for everyone.
Warning: The history and story behind LENR is full of scientific and political intrigue that can easily pull you away. But please don't loose touch with what is happening present day.j
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More Disclosure Stuff
by metatron inhardly a week passes without some credible figure testifying to ufo reality.. http://beforeitsnews.com/unexplained-phenomena/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-may-be-imminent-2430224.html.
i've followed ufo stories for some years now and this barrage of authoritative people looks unprecedented.
couple that with the claim that ufo sightings have increased enormously in the past couple years and...... who knows?.
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JamesThomas
I apologize. However, if one wanted to discount the whole UFO thing, one would post one like yours....wouldn't they?
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More Disclosure Stuff
by metatron inhardly a week passes without some credible figure testifying to ufo reality.. http://beforeitsnews.com/unexplained-phenomena/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-may-be-imminent-2430224.html.
i've followed ufo stories for some years now and this barrage of authoritative people looks unprecedented.
couple that with the claim that ufo sightings have increased enormously in the past couple years and...... who knows?.
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JamesThomas
00DAD,
As far as "critical thinking skills", a phrase you use to arrogantly discount the reality of UFOs. You may want to investigate -- just for one example -- Dr. Josef Allen Hynek. He was a astrophysicist hired to help the US government debunk UFO's, and is most popularly know for his work with Project Blue Book.
He was certainly known for his critical thinking skills. However, after he studied first hand what the government knew about UFOs, he became a major advocate for UFOs and became the founder and head of the Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). Founded in 1973. Because of his honesty and bravery, he lost a lot of respect from the mainstream scientific community who walk in blind lock-step to the popular dogma that says we are not being visited by other races...as if they fucking know anything. -
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More Disclosure Stuff
by metatron inhardly a week passes without some credible figure testifying to ufo reality.. http://beforeitsnews.com/unexplained-phenomena/2012/08/ufo-disclosure-may-be-imminent-2430224.html.
i've followed ufo stories for some years now and this barrage of authoritative people looks unprecedented.
couple that with the claim that ufo sightings have increased enormously in the past couple years and...... who knows?.
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JamesThomas
00DAD: "
All those interested in this subject would enjoy Carl Sagan's excellent book, The Demon Haunted World.
Sagan was involved in getting the SETI project up and running. He thoroughly analyzes the evidence for extra-terrestrial visitations to earth.
It's an excellent read. I highly recommend it. You'll learn some valuable critical thinking skills in the process."
You may want to look into Carl Sagan's past. He was once extremely interested in UFO's. It was only after he started being funded by the US government on many of his projects, and when he became a mainstream spokes person that he chose to parrot the popular mainstream beliefs that scorned acounts of UFOs. Carl, was no idiot. He knew that if he spoke his real concerns he would likely loose his funding and popular appeal.