Hey paisley girl. Nice work.
Have you ever transferred your wonderful art work into pottery or wall paintings? Something you could perhaps make a buck or two on?
j
i have been drawing again.
i dont have a scanner but this is what i am doing.
i have gotten lots of compliments on them.
Hey paisley girl. Nice work.
Have you ever transferred your wonderful art work into pottery or wall paintings? Something you could perhaps make a buck or two on?
j
the "sacred secret" of god that creation was yearing to glimpse for so long was jehovah's plan of salvation and righteous government rescue operation.. yet, pagans, heathens and various crackpot primitives all came up with the same plan long before jehovah's was "revealed".
something smells bad about this!!.
i find it puzzling.. child sacrifice to appease wrathful deities is a disgusting solution to crop failure.
Awake&Watching:
I really look forward to seeing the other posts. Very thought provoking,
Such sentiments are what Terry's stimulating and compelling posts often motivate within people.
He often has a subtle, yet effective way of smacking us upside the head and awakening us from a harmful path.
I am one of many who appreciate his presence here.
j
i am a baptized jw that faded some years back.
in those days i deeply believed in the org and became disillusioned by some things happening in the local congregation.
following some research on the net i decided to fade out of watchtower existence because i did not want to keep mixing with false religion (or so i thought at the time).
Welcome, jaydoe.
Follow your heart.
If you feel you can live a life of integrity within an atmosphere of lies and deception, who are we to judge. Give it a go. You can always fade out again if it does not work for you.....and you may actually help others to come out with you.
Glad you joined us.
j
i know a lot of you do meditation and i thought i would share a recent experience with you all.
it's been almost 2 years since i left the mental bondage of the org.
and it's been a journey with lots of twists and turns.
Popper's counsel here is among the most helpful and elegant one could hope to find.
He is a rare gem. We are fortunate that he has joined us.
j
whenever i hear the word jehovah i still feel warm and fuzzy.
he was the god that i spent hours talking to in prayer, petitioning, thanking, pleading with.
he was my father, the creator, the one who we would worship for eternity.. jesus on the other hand i never spoke or prayed to.
My feelings are very much those of Narkissos.
Being raised as a JW, the most difficult part was feeling a sense of love and admiration for the Bible expression of Jehovah. This guy was way too repugnant for me to love and cherish; but I was stupid, and blamed myself.
After the Witnesses, I came to love and appreciate Jesus as my Master. Then, a time came when there was no need for any deity or god story, as they were seen as a distant mirage compared with the immediate presence of reality.
j
worth taking a look at:.
http://www.martycrouch.com/spiritualassessment.html.
spiritual self-assessment.
Knowledge is only possible when we can say something.
Intellectual "knowledge" perhaps. But this is only superficial. The sounds of a few vowels and consonants, and the thoughts which they echo, can in no way capture life; only present a facsimile. One can sit quietly without thought and by placing acute and clear awareness on the body and sensations, come away with a far richer knowledge -- even if it is a wordless and indescribable knowing -- of what it is to live, than compared to every word ever written and spoken about life.
Words and thoughts are only empty verbal or pictorial interpretation, one or more steps removed from the reality these mono-dimensional representations feebly attempt to convey. On the other hand, silent, non-labeling, non-defining, non-interpreting, and open conscious-awareness has a wondrous way of meeting directly with life and reality. It's as if words and thoughts are structures of separating boxes and walls; whereas silent attention is free and boundless. Certainly the conscious-awareness which scans a thorough and lengthy autobiography, is not any of the words and thoughts. The awareness is real, the words are not.
Raw, immediate actuality is not within words and thoughts; it is closer; it is in the still awareness which all existence moves and is experienced within. It can be realised that the reality and the silent conscious meeting with that reality, are same meeting same. They are one. This has to be seen first-hand. The meeting has to be made. Believing it, is only words and thoughts, and so not at all the reality to which we are referring.
In other words: we are not what we think. We are deeper, far richer and more real than words, thoughts and beliefs about "self" can ever convey.
Are you repudiating knowledge?
No, not at all. If I seem to be implying that, then it is likely my weakness of language. Intellectual knowledge is a wonderful, useful and excitingly evolving tool. I am only saying that there is a Reality that is closer than all mentalizing: The conscious-awareness which all intellectualizing happens within and which gives all knowledge it's existence and validity. Most people champion intellectual knowledge. It doesn't need me, and I choose to point elsewhere. But this does not mean I disrespect or discount intelligence and learnable knowledge. In fact, I often wish I had some. The knowledge I am pointing to can not be learned. It's what we truly are.
If there is data and there are practical uses of knowledge of data why would we doubt we can know other things?
I don't doubt. In fact it was while looking at thoughts and knowledge that the curiosity arouse to want to know what was seeing the thoughts. Can it be realized what we really are? The way to know is through acute observation, very much like how a scientist examines new species and things, that they may show and teach him or her.
Or, is "knowing" even important to you? Don't know; just asking!
Actually, it's all about knowing. What is true? What/who, am I, really? These are the questions that have lighted the way. Not the words so much, as the deep yearning ache to want to genuinely know. However, the realization of the true depths of self can not be known as things and objects are known. It's just too immediate, vast, raw and real. It is not known so much as lived. It's not something we can hold or fit in the mind, it's what we really are. It's what existence is.
j
i never was baptize as a jw.
i use to study with them for years, i even went as for as becoming a unbaptize publisher.
i gave up being a publisher because i did not feel genuine in my efforts to preach.
Hey, poppers. We posted at the same time. Had I seen your post I would not have said anything that might detour from your words.
Not surprisingly, though, I see we both spook on the same basic message.
Actually I have never had the need to make such a purchase.
That said, I imagine it would be more of a spiritual experience than I ever got in a church.
j
worth taking a look at:.
http://www.martycrouch.com/spiritualassessment.html.
spiritual self-assessment.
Gentlemen? Poppers, maybe.
Here's a flower for you, dear nvr:
worth taking a look at:.
http://www.martycrouch.com/spiritualassessment.html.
spiritual self-assessment.
Thanks poppers. Nice to see you here.
worth taking a look at:.
http://www.martycrouch.com/spiritualassessment.html.
spiritual self-assessment.
Purps.
Mmmmm, love your picture
I didn't know you were so young.
j