Seraphim23

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  why

  by therevealer in

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  if they are going to try to guess what jesus should look like why don't they or haven't they created artwork that they would use to consistently show him as the same guy.

  this one is from sept wt.

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  Seraphim23

  lol
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  why

  by therevealer in

  1. jw
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  if they are going to try to guess what jesus should look like why don't they or haven't they created artwork that they would use to consistently show him as the same guy.

  this one is from sept wt.

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  Seraphim23

  Cantleave and shador I disagree but I wont go into it as it would take the topic of course.
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  why

  by therevealer in

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  2. friends

  if they are going to try to guess what jesus should look like why don't they or haven't they created artwork that they would use to consistently show him as the same guy.

  this one is from sept wt.

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  Seraphim23

  They won’t use the Turin shroud as a guide of course because it indicates he was crucified on a cross. I love how evidence where it does exist gets binned by JWs.
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  Luton - London and Radical Islamists

  by *lost* in

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  can anyone living there tell the truth about what is really going on, that the government is keeping quiet.. i have heard some very disturbing news..

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  Seraphim23

  We know what happened don’t we? A member of a Muslim cult decided to kill a solider in order to make a political/religious point.
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  Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?

  by cantleave in

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  "without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?

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  Seraphim23

  Not anyone, just you in this instance.
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  Luton - London and Radical Islamists

  by *lost* in

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  can anyone living there tell the truth about what is really going on, that the government is keeping quiet.. i have heard some very disturbing news..

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  Seraphim23

  I live in Central London Lost but I have no idea what you mean?
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  Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?

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  Seraphim23

  Slimboyfat although you and I have different world views I think you make valid points and argue logically. In fact I really appreciate that some atheists like you are level headed in terms of how they debate and discuss in terms of intellectual honesty. I wonder sometimes if away from the labels atheists and theists, some lines should be redrawn to that of fundamentalist and non-fundamentalist as being a more accurate picture of what’s going on. Anyhow I digress a little, because I also wanted to say that circular reasoning of some theists is similar to some circular reasoning of some atheists when it comes to morality.

  Some atheists say that morality doesn’t require the existence of God because people, not God are the final authority for what is good or bad. However that is hardly an objective measure of good and bad or even an effective way to prove that good and bad has any objective existence. If it is only people saying that things are good and bad, as is going to be the case without a God, then objective good and bad are entirely impossible to prove. If one tries to link in subjective assessments of good and bad to the objective world, in order to get past this problem, this only works if the objective world doesn’t offer contradictions and if all humans everywhere and at all times agree with such a singular assessment, because if they do not then the idea that man, as opposed to some higher authority decides on what is good and bad, but not all them agree, this doesn’t constitute objective proof. Opinion has never changed reality to suit, not even majority opinion. One has to define good and bad in a way that never changes in order to say it exists and that has to be shown to exist in the objective world, but because nothing in the objective world stays the same, this is impossible.

  The same issue faces the theist as well I should add, even if God could be proved to exist which of course he can’t, for different but similar reasons.
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  My Story - a (kinda) newbie from the UK

  by wizzstick in

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  after lurking for 7 and half years (is that a record?!

  ) its time for me to say hello.. so who am i, and whats my story?.

  im a born in jw, with all my siblings, mother, wife and children in.

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  Seraphim23

  Welcome wizzstick. I was baptised there also. I wonder if I ever bumped into you because I served the tea sometimes at Bows Road. I came from Barkingside/Hainault congregation.
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  Luton - London and Radical Islamists

  by *lost* in

  1. social
  2. current

  can anyone living there tell the truth about what is really going on, that the government is keeping quiet.. i have heard some very disturbing news..

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  Seraphim23

  What is it you heard and what do you want to know?
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  Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?

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  Seraphim23

  I give up.