did anyone else pick up on bush's quote?.
"no excuse that i was just following orders..." (to the iraqi army).
i thought that was interesting since the parallel is that if anyone (elder, organization, watchtower) says anything contrary to the bible, we can't use that excuse either.
Did anyone else pick up on Bush's quote?
"No excuse that I was just following orders..." (to the Iraqi army)
I thought that was interesting since the parallel is that if ANYONE (elder, organization, Watchtower) says anything contrary to the Bible, we can't use that excuse either. We're still responsible in front of Jehovah.
hey guys,.
the other day, scully had a great post about "you will positively not die.
" i don't know where it is, but if you read it it was good.. anyway, likewise, here's something that sparked my thinking.... i've been told by elders, etc, that when you go into a judicial meeting or the elders have a meeting about appointents that the decision they made was "from jehovah.".
Hey Guys,
The other day, Scully had a great post about "You will positively not die." I don't know where it is, but if you read it it was good.
Anyway, likewise, here's something that sparked my thinking...
I've been told by elders, etc, that when you go into a judicial meeting or the elders have a meeting about appointents that the decision they made was "from Jehovah."
In other words, if you you didn't qualify to be an elder, it was OBVIOUSLY not the elders' petty jealousies or politics. It was that Jehovah himself saw fit that you weren't appointed. After all, where two or more are gathered together...
So I was thinking, if that was the case, when the Governing Body meets, (and they are the most holy in the whole world), how do they justify some of the mistakes that they've made in theology and doctrine??? I mean, how can you have it both ways???
If you question a brothers appointment or non-appointment as an elder, you're going against Jehovah. But in a more important case, the Governing Body meeting together to discuss doctrine, that that same "surety" doesn't apply if later on the doctrine changes???
If it was really in stone, then they shouldn't be wrong. Or at the least, not go back and forth.
Anyway, I hope I articulated this post good enough. I just wanted to know your opinion and how a Witness would defend this apparent contridiction.
Please, limit your "Because they are not the Truth" comments. I'm trying to figure out the logic to defend this from the Witness standpoint.
Thanks!!!
comments you will not hear at the 3/1/03 wt study
january 15, 2003 wt.
how strong is your faith?.
Blondie,
Love your "Will Not Hear" posts a lot.
But just a suggestion since I don't have the Watchtowers...
It gets confusing sometimes to see when the Watchtower is talking and when you are making your comment.
I was wondering if you could diferenciate between the two better. Something like "My Quotes always in Red" or something or in another font.
Maybe you already do that, but it seems inconsistant to me.
Thanks
i used to be a jw for a few years but i left it behind like a pair of dirty underwear.
at first it seemed good.
the people were all very nice and inviting (of course they would be), the teachings seemed logical.
WOW!
Excellent posts, Crink.
i need someplace to vent, so excuse me but i am very angry at the moment.
as most of you know, my father in law committed suicide last sunday (the 16th).
his death hit nina hard, but i've discovered this week that my sweet little kitten of a wife has the heart of a lion.
This post really hit home.
My slide with the witnesses happened after one of my closest friends committed suicide.
When I got to the hospital he was already dead and I started to cry.
An elder there said, "Why are you crying. This man committed self murder."
It was then then I started to become disullusioned.
My heart goes out to you Big Tex. I wish I could say something to make you feel better.
first off, the new forum looks spiffy.
i like what simon has done with the place.
been away for a while so it was quite the eye shock coming back in.. yes, we are finally getting our shepherding call this weekend.
Jules,
JT is right about wife leaving because of spiritual endangmement.
Becareful where you are treading....
some time ago, i asked this question on the old h2o, but many of you are new.
i'm curious.. how many of you, when you were jw's had the security code '1914' in your home system?.
i think a lot of jw's were subjecting themselves to robbery with that number.
Most KH's and debit card numbers are one of the following...
1914
1935
8318
3729
some time ago, i asked this question on the old h2o, but many of you are new.
i'm curious.. how many of you, when you were jw's had the security code '1914' in your home system?.
i think a lot of jw's were subjecting themselves to robbery with that number.
ooops!
Also 2414
hey guys, .
does anyone know the links to these sites?
i had them on my wife's computer and now that's gone.... i'm trying to print out something for a friend.. 1) the site that that talks about "the emporor's new clothes.".
Hey guys,
Does anyone know the links to these sites? I had them on my wife's computer and now that's gone...
I'm trying to print out something for a friend.
1) The site that that talks about "The Emporor's New Clothes."
2) The site that talks about how "Cat's are Bad" (parody)
Thanks.
today a couple of elders came by and told me that "diminished morality" is proof that those who leave the truth have lost jehovah's favor.
that is, when they were in the truth, they were all chaste, etc.
but now that they are out of the truth that they don't hold the same high standards of morality.
Today a couple of elders came by and told me that "diminished morality" is proof that those who leave the truth have lost Jehovah's favor.
That is, when they were in the truth, they were all chaste, etc. But now that they are out of the truth that they don't hold the same high standards of morality.
Your thoughts???
