Eyes I am told, this is my real picture.
And legs, I am a marathoner, run at least 35 miles a week.
I get compliments on my brains but not as much. Guess I will continue to work on that one.
Eyes I am told, this is my real picture.
And legs, I am a marathoner, run at least 35 miles a week.
I get compliments on my brains but not as much. Guess I will continue to work on that one.
sometimes i wonder if the persons we are sreally show off our talents.. you may go somewhere with all these talents, hobbies and dislikes and people just see you for another two legged creature on planet earth.. for instance at work people just see you for what you do, they don't know how talented you may be.. my hobbies:.
watching television & movies, sewing, being around my doggies, relaxing-bathing- walking on the beach - love the sand.
i just learnt how to swim so i don't mind swimming in the pool now.
JT Stumbler:
Microbrewers rock! That's how our home town brew all started, "New Knoxville".
Amen to that old thinking outside of the box!
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1. their family dynamics require it.. 2. they are old and its too late to jump ship now.. 3. it allows them to think they are special.. 4. they are sheltered by a fake brotherhood community around them.. add more?
1. Because the WTBS tells them they have to be.
2, Because they are lulled into a false sense of security around their of dub friends.
3. Because they have been amnipulated into a marriage with another dub and feel they can't leave.
4. Because they have been impregnated by the dub husband and now have dub children also depending on them.
5. Because they are afraid to think for themselves.
6. Because they fear they will live ouside God's love and protection. (Another source of mindcontrol by WTBS)
7. Because leaving will leave one all alone, for a while, as you can have no non-dub friends or family.
8. Because of mis-application of scripture, "where else are we to go".
9. Because of lack of education.
10. Because of the comfort zone factor.
Any other thoughts? Fascinating thread.
sometimes i wonder if the persons we are sreally show off our talents.. you may go somewhere with all these talents, hobbies and dislikes and people just see you for another two legged creature on planet earth.. for instance at work people just see you for what you do, they don't know how talented you may be.. my hobbies:.
watching television & movies, sewing, being around my doggies, relaxing-bathing- walking on the beach - love the sand.
i just learnt how to swim so i don't mind swimming in the pool now.
This is a very interesting post. It gives one food for thought. How much of our upbringing developes of hobbies, talents and dislikes?
My hobby is running.
What am I running from?
My talent is professional wedding photography.
Perhaps enjoy spending time in other Churches as I was forbidden to do so as a youth.
My dislikes are controlling people.
As I had way too much of that growing up.
How about the rest of us? Any further comments?
anyone go to that convention in ny back in the 50's?
remember when they lasted until 8pm?
in the summer?
I have read all of your wonderful posts. I too was at Yankee Stadium in 1969 and in 1973.
I recall fainting dead away in 1973 and being brought to first aid.
This was all I knew and do not remember this experience as anything but a time we saw all our family and had grateful reunions. The 1973 international convention was the last time I saw my dear uncle, "aposate" now, with all my cousins and grandmother at an assembly. They were appalled at my fainting but I was just trying to sit still and be good.
Moving forward to today, I see this as a little bit of whining. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Those of us who were kids had no choices in the matter but doesn't this opportunity allow us to have open minds and hearts to make other choices for our own families and children?
I do not mean to be disrespectful. I sympathize with all of your pain and bad memories, I was there too.
how about we let loose and spit up frothing at the mouth fury like the imaginary apostate's the j-dubs think we are?
"get the hell out of my universe you god fearing animal's!!!
there is no jehovah!
My dear uncle in the truest original apostate. He left with Ray and knows him well. Speaks to him each week.
He does not post here and does not picket anywhere.
But is you have questions about the "truth" he has a Bible based and compelling argument. There is a long list of JW relatives who have shunned him, including his own daughter because of efforts to show him "Christian" love in their shunning practice. He, my aunt and my 93 year old grandmother were all DF'd for their questioning the "truth".
Needless to say, I am very proud of him and am glad to say he is my uncle. His stand has helped me and many others escape from the mind control that is the witness beliefs.
did anyone have any really weird calls?
i remember one when i was aux pioneering- some guy said he belived in 'the book of the yellow man' which he said was based on the belief that aliens came to earth in a hot air balloon and created mankind... or something like that.
he was an odd chap.
I remember having three big doberman's sent after me, at years old........
I have since learned to run very FAST........
I have run three marthons (that's 26.2 miles....for those that don't know)
Helped raise 2.5 million dollars for Leukemia research.......
I would say that counts more than 90 hours a month,,,,,that I did, letting college go....as a 4.0 student......
Life is filled with choices.
Make the best choice for you!!!!!
in last nights episode of the simpsons, homer goes to see the movie "left below", and subsequently becomes obsessed with the rapture.
when they show an equation he's working on to determine when it will come, one of the numbers is 144,000!.
do any other religions besides the witnesses and adventists use that number?
Being from Knoxville, (it was an episode, we are so proud....)and being a Simpson fan, I think this was a specific jab at JW's.
i have been "lurking" here for a while and just wanted to share with those that would, maybe, understand what i go through sometimes.
my dad's family were mostly all witnesses.
my most vivid memories of my grandfather as a child were of his recording all of the assemblies (or conventions, as i suppose they are called now) and listening to them over and over.
I find so many similarities in my own story and yours!
This conduct from a group that claims to represent God by the love they have among themselves???
I am grateful, as well, to have a few rebel relatives who agree with my own views. Sadly though I have lost contact with my own mother and father.
wanted to write another topic entirely, but after quite some thinking i thought that one particular topic should be addressed.
especially, for people still feeling confused.
we often wonder why so many dubs looks like zombies, why it is hard to make them see the real truth about the truth, why cant they discuss any topic in depth without resorting to reasoning book or other wtbs literature, why it is that they are so easily manipulated, why it is that they are filled with apostate state of mind fears (fearing to question anything), why, why, why?
I sincerely loved reading your comments about the cognitive vacuum.
On my job, I am a supervisor and I have one JW who reports to me. The problems she comes to me with show a lack of abilty to work things out in your own mind. She has grown familar with going to those above her and asking for help. Yes, this is my job. But my ultimate goal as a supervisor is to empower my associates to make their own decisions, even if this the associate makes a wrong choice.
The mentallity WTBTS puts on people affects such a big part of their lives. I wonder if, the JW's were told not to evacuated during a tornado, for example, those of us who have been witnesses, know they answer already. This lack of ownership to one's one personal destiny is appalling.
The old men in Brooklyn who decide all these rules to follow, who gives them the right. They claim Jehovah god. Who will they answer to come their time to go?
We all have certainly made mistakes in life. I know I certainly have.
I remember one assembly I looked around the audience and saw a large group of under-educated, under-paid, mind numbed people. This was my last assembly I attended. The talk was another one about not going to college so you could pioneer as Armageddon was right around the corner. .
My heart goes out to all those who have survived and come out of this cult.
I find this thread one of the best I have ever read and wish you the very best on your continued search for understanding.