I too have experienced this conditional love. It was ingrained in me from an early age. I posted my experience recently on my site separatedfromtheflock.org - look for the story "conditional love." Basically my father forever linked his love for me with my love for Jehovah. Over 40 years have passed since that moment and nothing has changed on his side. However I've learned to live without the need for his approval or his love. It's liberating!
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Are you sad or angry?
by raven inafter exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?
right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.
i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.
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If You Refuse to Question, How Can You Be Sure of the Answer?
by xjwsrock in..... let's pose a forbidden question....is the jw faith actually the one true religion?
if you refuse to ask this question with a true open mind and heart, how can it be said you know the answer is yes?
put another way..... if you refuse to ask this question today, how can you really say you know today that the answer is yes?.
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So many people have an unquenchable thirst for answers. The JW teachings "close the loop" for so many lost, disenfranchised people. Remember when we were small children and we would drive our parents mad by constantly asking "why? why?" Even at the age of 50 I find myself asking why or how on a daily basis. Someone comes along and says guess what, we have all the answers! It is intriguing. Some just don't like to think for themselves, either because they never learned how or simply would rather not. Personally I'm OK with not knowing the answers to everything. I'll take my freedom of mind over that any day of the week.
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Separated From The Flock
by hyperpen inhello all, i've started a new blog to share experiences of living outside of the "flock" of jehovah's witnesses.
it can be found at https://separatedfromtheflock.wordpress.com.
i look forward to any comments, criticism or shared stories of life since you left the jw!.
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Hi RubaDub, I just saw your post. I looked for a coupon code but didn't find one, I signed up for the personal site for $70/year...not really that bad. Do you have your own site?
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Reason's why it is so difficult to leave
by Truthexplorer in1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.
3. the stress it will cause.
4. the thought of feeling isolated.
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You can HAVE spirituality outside of the JW. They will make you feel that you can only talk to God if you use their wires, not true. Many who leave believe they are leaving God, not true. I also do not believe you must have a church, religion or even a belief to have spirituality. Put the Watchtower down, go to the top of a hill or a mountain alone. Become one with the world around you. Find peace. The world is full of love and acceptance but you must love and accept it first.
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Saw a great therapist and was diagnosed with post traumatic stress. Any one else?
by Beachlover ini took your advise and found someone who could help and was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder and anxiety.
has anyone else been this route and have some positive feedback or been thru this?.
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I was diagnosed with PTSD as a result of mental and physical abuse at the hand of JW parents, among other things. The one therapist out of many that finally led me to see how stuck I was in the past passed away seven years ago but I am so grateful for her.
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"You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools
by FatFreek 2005 ini am approaching 76 years old.
i can clearly recall that awake!
statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.
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I skipped going to college out of HS in 1983 because the New System was then, as now, "just around the corner." With my perfect grade point average, my guidance counselor was in shock that I was going to pioneer FT instead of going right to college. That summer after graduation, as my former comrades were preparing to leave for college, I worked as a janitor in a nearby school... After I left the JW, I finally earned my AA, then BA, and then finally MBA nearly ten years ago. Glad I am no longer waiting for the NSOT!
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Jw's and beards
by wannaexit inwithout going into details.
it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.
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That's great! Maybe James Harden of the Houston Rockets can convert now!
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Brooklyn Eagle article about JWs moving out Brooklyn Heights in September
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2016/8/5/jehovahs-witnesses-will-start-moving-out-brooklyn-heights-headquarters-september.
the jehovah's witnesses will start moving out of brooklyn heights headquarters in september.
farewell to the jehovah's witnesses, who are moving out of their world headquarters at 25-30 columbia heights.
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I think back in 1969 the WT Society recommended selling one's possessions since the end of the present system of things was just around the corner. From the GB perspective this means, sell while the market's hot and get a nice place in the country. I'll bet they wanted to sell earlier but 9/11 put a temporary crimp on selling property so close to Ground Zero. Oh well, with the money they made from the sale of these gems they should be sitting pretty for a long time even if Watchtower's don't sell like they used to.
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Separated From The Flock
by hyperpen inhello all, i've started a new blog to share experiences of living outside of the "flock" of jehovah's witnesses.
it can be found at https://separatedfromtheflock.wordpress.com.
i look forward to any comments, criticism or shared stories of life since you left the jw!.
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no more word press in site name now just https://separatedfromtheflock.org
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I need a little help
by Darryl inmy story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.
a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.
from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.
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Hi Darryl, the great and wonderful thing is you have complete FREEDOM to figure out what you believe, and find YOUR path to God without interference and direction from men! You can even choose NOT to believe in God if you want to. I believe that religion is nothing more than a man-made "to do" manual for a relationship with God. I DO believe in God but I do not believe in Religion. I have gone to church on occasion to receive a message of inspiration (I also occasionally tune in to Joel Osteen on Sunday mornings, even if you're not a religious person his message is usually spot on with regard how we need to look at things to bring happiness and success into our lives). I love the fact that I can go to church IF I WANT TO, without fear that someone will call on me to find out why I've missed a Sunday! I can pray to God in the privacy of my home IF I WANT TO, with no one asking me how many times a week I pray, or ensuring I say a prayer of thanks before EVERY meal, whether I'm out in public or not (I always hated that!). Go to several churches, read many books from people who do and no not believe in God (I recommend Nietzsche), and guess what no one is going to ostracize you because you read a book by an atheist! Life is meant to be lived uncensored; as long as your beliefs don't harm anyone else you're good in my book. Check out my site https://separatedfromtheflock.org where I share my views and stories related to having once been a JW.