It also does'nt help matters that her father Is an overbearing tyrant who constantly criticises her.
mackey
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JW Burnout
by mackey inover the past few months i've had very infrequent contact with my witness friend for a number of reasons.
her social circle, my failed attempts to open her eyes, and the mind control all had a part in our drifting apart.
i've recently heard that she seems to be under alot of stress, to the point where there has been a noticable change in her atitude and physical appearance ( i guess she just looks worn out).
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JW Burnout
by mackey inover the past few months i've had very infrequent contact with my witness friend for a number of reasons.
her social circle, my failed attempts to open her eyes, and the mind control all had a part in our drifting apart.
i've recently heard that she seems to be under alot of stress, to the point where there has been a noticable change in her atitude and physical appearance ( i guess she just looks worn out).
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mackey
She told me once that her depression was caused by things outside of her faith, no doubt a result of the fear the wts induces In people. It's hard to see the good In the outside world when you think God will destroy you If you're not a JW. I wish I could make her realize that outside her faith Is a man who loves her and would do anything to ensure her happiness.
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JW Burnout
by mackey inover the past few months i've had very infrequent contact with my witness friend for a number of reasons.
her social circle, my failed attempts to open her eyes, and the mind control all had a part in our drifting apart.
i've recently heard that she seems to be under alot of stress, to the point where there has been a noticable change in her atitude and physical appearance ( i guess she just looks worn out).
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mackey
If this girl did not have the emotional issues and the dangerously low self esteem, I would leave her alone. If she were truly happy, It would probably be best not to rock the boat, but her entire family life Is a mess. A terrible thing happened to her sister some years back and I worry for her. I don't feel that I'm overreacting when I say that all of these issues are connected to the WTS.
At first, I wanted her out of the cult because I wanted to marry her, but now I want her out for her own safety. I have battled an eating disorder for many years, so I am well aware of the damage they can cause, so I know I need to do something, but because of the cult influence, I can't get close enough to help. I feel really helpless about It , because I am the only person she ever spoke to about these problems, and because of my desperation and impatience, I scared her away.
In the twisted world of a JW , an eating disorder Is probably a sign of weakness. Thats probably why she never told her dub "friends". They would probably run to the elders and rat her out. Not one of these so called "friends" gives a rat's ass about her health.
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JW Burnout
by mackey inover the past few months i've had very infrequent contact with my witness friend for a number of reasons.
her social circle, my failed attempts to open her eyes, and the mind control all had a part in our drifting apart.
i've recently heard that she seems to be under alot of stress, to the point where there has been a noticable change in her atitude and physical appearance ( i guess she just looks worn out).
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mackey
Over the past few months I've had very infrequent contact with my witness friend for a number of reasons. her social circle, my failed attempts to open her eyes, and the mind control all had a part In our drifting apart.
I've recently heard that she seems to be under alot of stress, To the point where there has been a noticable change In her atitude and physical appearance ( I guess she just looks worn out). I know that she suffers from an eating disorder, which she told me has gotten worse lately, and that worries the hell out of me. The last time I saw her, I could see the confusion and sadness In her eyes.
This may sound selfish, maybe even cruel, but I hope she gets burned out, hope she gets sick and tired of the life she Is living. I've done everything I could do. I made It clear that I love her and am here for her no matter what and I know that I've done more for her and have cared for her more than anyone ever has. All I can do Is to live my life the best I can and hope that the love I showed her will open her eyes .I don't want to be the one to tear down her faith, even if It's all a lie, but I do want to be there to help pick up the pieces.
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Smoker or Non Smoker?
by JH indo you smoke?.
would you live with a smoker, if you are non smoker?
i wouldn't be able to smell cigarette smoke at home nor in my car.
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mackey
Smoked a pack a day til' a about a month ago.
God I miss It.Sweeeeeeet nicotine.
Mackey, Of the mouthful of yellow Chicklets class.
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Did I misinterpret this?
by mackey inhere's a list of statements made by a jw friend of mine to me over the course of several months.
i'm not a pyscologist, but i saw them as a cry for help.
the message seems pretty clear to me..
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mackey
There will be a time when I will have no choice but to move on.I just want to be able to live my life without wondering If I could have done more. I want her to know that there Is something else for her, even If It doesn't include me. If this was a regular girl i'd have given up long ago. It's hard to walk away from someone you love when you see them suffering.
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Did I misinterpret this?
by mackey inhere's a list of statements made by a jw friend of mine to me over the course of several months.
i'm not a pyscologist, but i saw them as a cry for help.
the message seems pretty clear to me..
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mackey
Here's a list of statements made by a jw friend of mine to me over the course of several months. I'm not a pyscologist, but I saw them as a cry for help. The message seems pretty clear to me.
1." I wish I had never become a jw, but knowing what I know now, I can't leave." ( I assume she means knowing the "truth", or death.)
2." I long for the chance to have never known of them." ( the dubs)
3. Asking me more than once If I thought she was In a cult. ( I never answered, but she said she understands how It would seem that way.)
4. Refusing to admit that I will die at armegeddon.( said I would be ressurected, and she would have to convert me.)
5. Stating that, If she had any doubt, she would leave.
6. Telling me personal things that I know could get her disfellowed. ( even did something with me that could have gotten her In a heap of trouble.)
7. Tried to convert me, then gave up, calling me hopeless.( should I be offended or proud?)
8. Open to reading CofC. She seemed almost anxious to read It. Somehow the anxiousness turned to fear and she gave It back without reading It.
Of course, these statements were made when I was uneducated about the real truth, now I am a threat to her. No doubt she was spoken to about me. All of the above, It seems have been wiped clean from her memory.Maybe I misunderstood, but It seems to me that she really wanted out.It also seems that fear Is what keeps her In.We used to be very open about everything, now I'm basically being shunned.
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What Might Happen?
by mackey inif i gave a dub friend of mine a copy of "combatting mind control" and told her that her guilt and fear complex is covered in the book.
i would be sure to tell her it's got nothing to do with jw's, but i noticed some similarities.
i'd tell her that i am only concerned and reading it would help calm my fears for her wellbeing.. i'd probably never try this, but i'm curious nonetheless.
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mackey
If I gave a dub friend of mine a copy of "combatting mind control" and told her that her guilt and fear complex Is covered In the book. I would be sure to tell her It's got nothing to do with jw's, but I noticed some similarities. I'd tell her that I am only concerned and reading It would help calm my fears for her wellbeing.
I'd probably never try this, but I'm curious nonetheless. How would you react If you were still In and "under the Influence" and someone offered It to you. And would reading It while still "In" make any difference?
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Any Experience With This?
by mackey init seems that the lack of love is a pretty large void in the life of a jw and i was wondering how much of an impact it can have in a persons descision to leave the borg.
i have a very close friend of mine who's in it and has absolutly no love or compassion in her life.
even her own parents put her down.
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mackey
It seems that the lack of love Is a pretty large void In the life of a JW and I was wondering how much of an impact It can have In a persons descision to leave the borg. I have a very close friend of mine who's In It and has absolutly no love or compassion In her life. Even her own parents put her down. She Is well aware that I love her and would do anything for her, and am hoping that over time, that will be enough to make her see what is missing In her life ( she's 24).
I tried the direct approach, but she's not going to listen until she wants to listen.Basically what I do now Is write letters reminding her that I love her and am her for her. I try to build her up, not tear her down, In the hopes that she'll open up to me and see that I'm not the demon seed that her social circle makes me out to be. She said It herself, that aside from her parents, no one has ever expended themselves for her the way I have. And I see that as an advantage. I would like to hear from any who experienced anything like this from a "worldly" person, and how It affected you, Or from any "worldlies" who employed this tactic. Actually, my love Is real and not really a tactic.
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mackey
The irrational fears, the inability to think for themselves, not being able to see the pain they cause families and friends. The hatred they preach, and most of all, not being able to see true love even If It bit them In the ass.