the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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When a person is DFd does the Org subtract them from that same number or not?
millie ...
Technically yes.
But from what I have ever seen, the Borg does not report number of current members who are baptized. It reports average publishers and peak publishers.
There are many baptized persons who are not publishers and many publishers who are not baptized.
Obviously, a person who is DF/DA is not considered a publisher.
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open discussion.
the rich and powerful vs the struggling poor.. the 1% we all hear about.... is it fair that a tiny minority has more and wins more often than the rest of us?____.
(let's make a survey).
I don't vote/ never have - but IF I were going to vote in 2020
it would be Tulsi Gabbard.
Terry ...
Yes, of the Dems, she appears to me to be the most level-headed and reasonable one of the bunch. She would have my vote (if I could ... lol).
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isn't trump shooting himself in the foot when he is on the verge of (or already in) a trade war with china?
isn't walmart like 95% chinese stuff?.
won't there be a backlash when many of his supporters that want to upgrade to indoor plumbing see how much it costs with all the tariffs?
Isn't Trump shooting himself in the foot when he is on the verge of (or already in) a trade war with China? Isn't Walmart like 95% Chinese stuff?
I don't get it. Won't there be a backlash when many of his supporters that want to upgrade to indoor plumbing see how much it costs with all the tariffs?
I don't get it.
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what are your thoughts on that?.
If you're a PIMO guy, just explain to her that if you get a woody that neither one of you will touch it.
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would you stop buying nike products because you didn’t like their politics?
conversely, would you give business to a company because you liked their political stand on a matter?
would you stop watching an entertainer because you disagree with their political perspectives?
I guess I do to an extent.
I would not buy from Hobby Lobby when I can go to Michaels.
I would not buy from Chick-Fil-A no matter how good some people say it tastes. I guess they think people don't eat on Sundays. Plus just about everyone else sells chicken sandwiches.
Oh, and Dominos Pizza. I never really liked it that much anyway.
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authorities in sf have decided to 'sanitise' language around criminals.. because, yeah, that's the big problem facing san francisco, not drug abuse, gangs, violence, people crapping in the street or illegal immigrants.
glad to know they've got their priorities sorted.
under this stunning and brave new scheme, a criminal who's served his sentence will be referred to as a 'returning resident who was involved with the justice system'.
L U H E ....
Sounds like you must live in or near SF if it is bothering you.
I've been to SF several times as a tourist and enjoyed it.
Sorry about the problems in your backyard.
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after many tv specials were the watchtower bible & truck society have been exposed as the biggest religious haven for pedophiles on the planet and the loss of hundred of court cases including (the last and biggest one involving the supreme court) the society finally files chapter 11.. the society must turn over all of their files of all known pedophiles.
this turns out to be bigger then anyone could have ever imagined with tens of thousands of their members being named many of whom have been in positions of power.. over 80% of their followers leave the mother ship and contributions slow to a trickle.. most of the society's properties are sold off and people are meeting in private homes and basements.
just like they did when the church was founded a 150 years ago.
some JWs might meet in homes the way it all started ......
L H G ...
Yes, and men will grow goatees and join the Masons. The symbol of the organization, the Watchtower, will have a creepy Pyramid on the top like the one on the back of the US 1$ bill.
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the donald has recently suggested that he would like to look into buying greenland from denmark in the same manner that alaska was purchased from the russians.
i think the danes would be smart to look into selling it as it is costing them money every year with very little returns for their investments so far.. the alternative might well be that donald declares greenland a national security threat and invades them so that the world remains safe for democracy.
i would suggest to the danes that as any other real estate transaction that they put it on the open market and see how much russia or china are willing to offer .
I think the people should vote on whether or not they want to live under King Trump.
The ones I saw on TV were laughing their asses off just thinking about it.
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now i think i may have seen everything.. "boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates".
i'm all for people being entitled to wear what they want and live as they please as long as they're not harming anyone but - a male prom queen?
maybe there wasn't much competition in his school?.
The Prom Queen does have a nice shape.
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i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!
from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.
i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.
Actually the JW numbers published are generally lower than most other religions.
The JW Publisher numbers do include a large number of non-baptized ones, mainly young ones whose parents are JWs. Once a young one "participates" in the preaching work, they are, by default, publishers and can count time. Just to throw a number at the wall, the age would be somewhere around 5 years old or so, depending on the child and the BOE.
On the other hand, many people claim to belong to a particular religion and have little if anything to do with it and the numbers are greatly inflated. Think about how many people claim to be Catholic but may never have set foot in their church since they were a child ... if at all. The same goes with many other religions.
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