Hi guys,
while I do appreciate the link, this recording is from quite an old assembly program. While they haven't changed their tune, I did think that this was something new.
no-zombie
https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
Hi guys,
while I do appreciate the link, this recording is from quite an old assembly program. While they haven't changed their tune, I did think that this was something new.
no-zombie
hello, this is my 1st initiated post on this site, so i'm a bit nervous.
i did search for similar topics on this site, but a lot of them have been inactive for several years, so here goes.... a little background, i was pretty much born in "da twoof", baptized at 17, pioneered for about 6 years, was part of the rbc part time, and was even in the foreign language field for the last 3 years i was a jw.
so i pretty much had a pretty active social life within the organization due to being part of all of those things.
Hi Novice,
after a lifetime of being told that worldly people are lairs, immoral, drug taking alcoholics who can never be trusted, it's no wonder that we have social issues. But from my own experience, I've found that most people are just trying to find their way in this world and many have the same worries and insecurities as we do. Of course there are those people who are self-centered and generally not nice to be with but I've known many of these kinds in the Truth over the years too. My only advice is to "have friends by being one first". Task a risk and do random acts of kindness to those who might need a little encouragement. It may never be returned by that particular person, but your character will develop and so will your reputation for being a good person. And just as your husband said, try something new ... scuba diving, tennis, stamp collecting, what ever ... and besides stretching your personal boundaries, you'll have something new to talk about over coffee to others.
no-zombie
considering the demographic transition patterns of societies historically under go and in particular how the population pyramids evolve over time has a direct application to the future of the organization and i encourage all to have a look at this very interesting subject.
i've spent quite a bit of time formally studying these proven concepts and despite all the spin we hear and read about the magnificent growth the society is enjoying ... it is in fact in a death spiral (or more exactly a stage 5 population contraction).
look it up for yourselves guys, it can be quite encouraging when you think about.
Considering the demographic transition patterns of societies historically under go and in particular how the population pyramids evolve over time has a direct application to the future of the Organization and I encourage all to have a look at this very interesting subject. I've spent quite a bit of time formally studying these proven concepts and despite all the spin we hear and read about the magnificent growth THE SOCIETY is enjoying ... it is in FACT in a death spiral (or more exactly a Stage 5 population contraction). Look it up for yourselves guys, it can be quite encouraging when you think about. Because it explains a lot of what we see going on around up and despite all the tinkering the GB has does around the edges, I strongly believe that the future doesn't look that good for those in Warwick or all the diehards we know.
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
no-zombie ... because i'm just not like all the others
i think the swamp would empty overnight .
The problem here guys is that Governing Body could very well remove shunning from the law books ... people bail ... and then the GB changes their mind and puts it back on ... happy to have pruned out the unbelievers and put the fear of God back in the congregation.
so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.
where do i go now to get baptised?
is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.
Hi Libby,
I think that most of us have gone though the feelings you are having at the moment. And to be truthful, I don't think that there is an easy answer to your/our deeper questions. However the analogy used often here is the Matrix Red or Blue pill problem. Is it better not to know Truth and live in happy ignorance .... or know the real Truth but be tormented by it? Most people prefer to be ignorant. But for me personally, i have to know. But that's just me.
No-zombie
just stopping by to share this... .
after seeing a watchtower representative paste the same thing over and over, about jw.org being available in 850 languages.... we all know how the watchtower loves to boast about the number of languages it translates into.
what are the facts?
This term is new to me ... "New Field partnerships" ... any ideas?
i don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, forgive me if they have.
but i am just so, so sad that yet more innocent lives have been so brutally taken.
we've now had three attacks in three months and there has been countless terror attacks stopped by the police.. my jw acquaintances see these attacks as proof the end is near.
My Witness family was going on about these attacks last night, all excited about how it was another sign that we are living in the last days. I didn't say it, but I wish these ones would put things in their proper perspective. Because while the loss of even one life is bad, what about the 150 or so women who are murdered each and every year through acts of domestic violence in Great Britain or the nearly 1500 people killed annually on UK roads. Terrorist attacks are bad, no doubt about it ... but ultimately the number of deaths and injures they produce is very, very small statistically speaking. Its just like shark attacks here in Australia. People are paranoid about sharks. But how many people really are killed by them? Again the figures prove that it's by far more dangerous driving to the beach than it is getting into the water.
These people should just have a nice warm cup of tea and calm down a bit.
with the chances of war breaking out on the korean peninsula rapidly rising, i wonder if jehovah will save his people in seoul if kim jong-un decides to nukes it?
or will their deaths just be written off by the governing body's writing department as another case of "time and unforeseen occurrence"?.
while you might think that i'm being flippant or trivial here, i'm being quite serious.
With the chances of war breaking out on the Korean peninsula rapidly rising, I wonder if Jehovah will save his people in Seoul if Kim Jong-un decides to nukes it? Or will their deaths just be written off by the Governing Body's writing department as another case of "time and unforeseen occurrence"?
While you might think that I'm being flippant or trivial here, I'm being quite serious. Because time and again, we have been told the lie of our special protection. Which sadly, the 99,000+ witnesses in that country might soon find out for themselves, when those who survive the attack, start to have their hair falling out in chunks.
i'm sure that whatever stage we are at with our journey in leaving the corporation disguised as a religion, aka the watchtower bible & tract society, we have good days and bad days.
maybe young ones who have managed to escape mentally do not suffer quite as much, or suffer in different ways, but after 40 years of indoctrination, what i now like to call the "machinery of reinforcement" it is unavoidable that you don't have days where your head is messed with.
yesterday was just such a day for me.
hi doubtfull,
No thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings. For me, when i read people's various comments, I know that I'll most likely never met them in person but there are real connection made when someone else is feeling what we feel or is able to articulate something that we just can't put into words. And even when we are just venting (which occurrs a lot here) I'm sure that one of us needs to read about it at the time, even if its just to feel for a moment that what's going on within ourselves is not that strange or unusual. I guess that most of us here are like patients in a amputee ward. Some of us are more injured that others, some accepting their new circumstance more that others, some who are crying, angry, full or self pity or loss, but none the less we are all heartened when someone else is fitted with a new processus and takes those first few steps on their own.
For me, I often think that I'm living on Bizarro World. I just don't get anyone thinks anymore. But coming here, helps me feel slightly more whole ... being in company of others like me ... part of the brotherhood of heretics.
no-zombie