What I think would be a useful idea for some, would be a little self reflection on how we continue to follow men. We were all once followers of one group of men, blindly thinking that they could do no wrong, only to follow others (or one in this case) thinking the same. For me, I think of Lance Armstrong. I was really crushed at the time, when I found out he was doping despite his near impossible winning streak, particularly so since my family had been so affected by cancer. Yet there you go. And while I have the highest regards for the work of Ray Franz, there is no way that he was perfect ... as none of us are ... or will be.
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Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?
by raymond frantz inthe problem is where do we go from here?
lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?
we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.
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How can you have a deficit for a Circuit Assembly on Zoom??
by pistolpete inremember when after a circuit assembly the assembly overseer would come out right before the end of the assembly and make a special announcement;.
"brothers, we have a financial deficit of $5,000 dollars for our circuit assembly.
keep in mind that we have utilities and other expenses that need to be met.
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Circuits are effectively billed before a convention, the levy amount based on the anticipated number of people that will attend. This gives the appearance that the circuit is in arrears.
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Mental illnesses of any kind are not acceptable excuses in judicial cases.
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An American Religion?
by no-zombie ini have a question.. have every member of the governing body (past and present) been american citizens?.
while i understand that some may have been born outside of the us, ultimately to serve in the world hq long term, i imagine that they all had to become 'americans'?.
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I have a question.
Have every member of the Governing Body (past and present) been American Citizens?
While I understand that some may have been born outside of the US, ultimately to serve in the world HQ long term, I imagine that they all had to become 'Americans'?
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Many Jw’s Love to Speculate About the New System
by Davros ina comment on another thread cracked me up where the poster related what some elder said on the platform that: .
in the new system, we likely will not have genitals.” lol.
i’ve heard so much speculation from many jw’s on what will and won’t be allowed in the new system.
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Probably, everyone will be nudists.
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P. Ms Letter to non subscibers to Redress Scheme
by jonahstourguide inspotted this article this morning.
i will try to post a link.. jtg.. australia.. institutions refusing to join the national redress scheme are "doubling down" on the crime of child sexual abuse, prime minister scott morrison says.. mr morrison and social services minister anne ruston have warned institutions they may lose funding and tax concessions if they fail to sign up by tuesday's deadline and will be named and shamed.. "all institutions are doing in not joining is doubling down on the crime and doubling down on the hurt," they said in a letter to 25 institutions.. "we consider it to be reprehensible that you have failed to sign up to the scheme.".
the jehovah's witnesses is among the organisations that has refused to sign up, arguing it does not have the institutional settings of other faith-based institutions that the redress scheme is designed to cover.. senator ruston is set to name the non-participating institutions on wednesday, when she will announce what action the federal government will take against them.. "we urge you to join the scheme not because of concerns about being identified, but because it is the right thing to do," the minister and mr morrison said.. "it is the right thing to do by survivors and their families and it is what every, decent, honest, australian demands.".
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Just a question for those who may know ... but when the Organization looses its non-charity tax exemption, what would be actual loss to them. I'm assuming that any donations given to the local branch would be taxed. However as the Brothers are encouraged to do more and more direct debit donations, couldn't the money be just transferred off shore to the HQ in the States?
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Beards in the WT: Africa too
by neat blue dog inas many know, african languages have for decades been given their own alternate cover with black people.
their cover for the 2020 wt#3 also includes a bearded man.
this can not be a coincidence.
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The fact the Governing Body changes the artwork for the WT (which actually are used as teaching tools), for non-western countries, begs me to ask the question ... is the written content varied, so as not to push away members in these lands? For example, obtaining higher education in India means a lot more than just getting a good job, for it contains a very strong social or cultural value to those people as well. Did then, the Indian Watchtowers have watered down comments against getting a Degree, or remove the slurs towards those who had one? It would be interesting to know.
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Gorby has to admit
by Gorbatchov infor the first time in my life, i have to admit that the world is rapidly deteriorating.
first i saw a decline in democracy worldwide.
elections were a tough battle every time, unfair too.
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I personally believe that things are not winding down, but winding up ... for WW3. Many political analysts who track the dynamics relationship between social behavior and war agree that there is a generational linking between the both of them. The theory offered by Strauss and Howe, (as explained in their book; the Third Turning) is one way to explain why each different generation doesn't understand the presiding and why major wars occur every 80 years or so. You can ever Wiki it if you like. Additionally I think that you can even apply its principles to the WT corporation and how behaves too.
Its a view of the world, that does actual give reason to the seeming mess of it.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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Thanks for the serious thread.
While things in Australia are still calm and some are buying more to stock up, it has become very hard (all most impossible actually) to get N95 masks without paying extorted prices online. It would be prudent though for all of us (no matter where we live) to buy more long life foods just in case our local area is closed down for a while in quarantine. But sadly I believe that global containment has failed and ultimately it will spread globally. However if we can make provisions and socially distance ourselves, there is a chance we can remain unaffected until a vaccine is released.
Best of health to all.
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The Coronavirus Is Trump’s Fault!
by minimus inyes, it’s donald trump’s problem and he has no idea of how to take care of this!
and he gets his vp mike pence to oversee this situation.
donald trump doesn’t care about who could get this virus.
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Guys, I don't want to get burned here. But the Caronavirus is nothing like the normal flu. Its not the death rate once you get the infection, people should be looking, but rather the transmission rate ... the R0 figure. And when you consider this number you will quickly discern that the Caronavirus has the potential total global death rate to match the Spanish Flu of 1918. A medical study released this week predicts that with an R0 figure of R4 to R7 (which is how this has become) shows that 1.8 million Americans are projected to die and millions more hospitalized is this disease become established in your country. The is NOT the ordinary flu ... the R0 figure is everything.
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