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83Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness
by Ron.W. ina slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
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Oh boy: 1,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses reach out to Super Bowl fans in Las Vegas
by Tahoe inhttps://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/02/09/1000-jehovahs-witnesses-reach-out-super-bowl-fans-las-vegas/ .
1000 lit-up carts at 50 strategic locations near the stadium and on the strip.
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https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/02/09/1000-jehovahs-witnesses-reach-out-super-bowl-fans-las-vegas/
1000 lit-up carts at 50 strategic locations near the stadium and on the strip.
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Murder JW Style (True Crime)
by Tahoe ina home remodeling job in england that went wildly wrong:.
a builder who bludgeoned his client to death with a hammer in a row over her new extension has been jailed for at least 15 years for murder.. peter norgrove killed sharon gordon at her home on 20 july last year.. her daughter rhian brown said norgrove acted like a "wolf in sheep's clothing" after earning her trust at the church they attended in dudley.. wolverhampton crown court heard he led the jehovah's witness service the same night he killed mrs gordon.. he repeatedly lied to her about the work he was doing, which took 15 months instead of six weeks.. .
"he didn't have the experience to be doing the work he was doing," miss brown said.. "he took full payment for the extension in advance, which we believe to be more than £30,000.".
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Tahoe
A home remodeling job in England that went wildly wrong:
A builder who bludgeoned his client to death with a hammer in a row over her new extension has been jailed for at least 15 years for murder.
Peter Norgrove killed Sharon Gordon at her home on 20 July last year.
Her daughter Rhian Brown said Norgrove acted like a "wolf in sheep's clothing" after earning her trust at the church they attended in Dudley.
Wolverhampton Crown Court heard he led the Jehovah's Witness service the same night he killed Mrs Gordon.
He repeatedly lied to her about the work he was doing, which took 15 months instead of six weeks.
"He didn't have the experience to be doing the work he was doing," Miss Brown said.
"He took full payment for the extension in advance, which we believe to be more than £30,000."
Mrs Gordon fitted a video doorbell to her home to prove that Norgrove had been lying about the times he was claiming to carry out work.
"He drove my Mom mad with stress and anxiety - she noted everything down," said Miss Brown.
"She had notebooks, receipts, everything, because of how bad this man's workmanship was."
The court heard Norgrove became furious when quizzed by his client and hit her eight times in the head with a lump hammer.
"The level of violence was horrendous," Miss Brown said. "We couldn't believe what we were hearing.
"'What do you mean she's dead?' I thought.
"My son was saying 'where is my nanny?' He was due to sleep over there that weekend."
Norgrove, 43, of Bromford Road, Sedgley, claimed to police he had left the property the previous day, but bloodstained items were found in a wheelie bin at a family address and a lump hammer discovered in his mother-in-law's shed.
Miss Brown said her mother was introduced to Norgrove at the Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Dudley but after being recommended to her, it emerged he was a newly-qualified bricklayer.
"This man deceived a lot of people," she said.
"He had the security net of being of this faith and hid who he really was.
"It doesn't matter what community you are in, you can have bad individuals.
"I use the phrase 'a wolf in sheep's clothing' and that's exactly what he's been able to do."
Mrs Gordon's sister Hilary, who lives in Australia, said in a victim impact statement her death had left "darkness and an indescribable pain".
"It's affected our sense of family, and robbed us of our future," she added.
Builder Peter Norgrove jailed for killing client in extension row
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Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses Release Digital Brochure to Mark World Holocaust Day
by Tahoe inas the world com- memorated the 97th international holocaust remembrance day (also known as world holocaust day or ihrd) yesterday, one of the groups targeted by the nazi regime, jehovah’s witnesses, has said it should not be lost on the world that they were among the first to be sent to the death camp.. accordingly, as conferences and exhibitions related to the 79th anniversary of the auschwitz liberation take place around the world, jehovah’s witnesses have released a 32-page digital brochure titled: “purple triangles – “forgotten victims” of the nazi regime”.
in a statement, the national spokesman of the witnesses in nigeria, mr. olusegun eroyemi said the group then referred to as bible students, suffered inhumane treatment at the auschwitz- birkenau concentration camp by the nazi regime “solely on the basis of their religious convictions.. “during its nearly five years of operation, auschwitz expanded to include a concentration camp, a forced-labor camp, and an extermination camp, as well as over 40 subcamps.
here, the nazi regime carried out some of the most agonizing human rights abuses against millions of jews, as well as poles, slavs, roman and sinti, homosexuals, and people with disabilities, among others.
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Tahoe
As the world com- memorated the 97th International Holocaust Remembrance Day (also known as World Holocaust Day or IHRD) yesterday, one of the groups targeted by the Nazi regime, Jehovah’s Witnesses, has said it should not be lost on the world that they were among the first to be sent to the Death Camp.
Accordingly, as conferences and exhibitions related to the 79th anniversary of the Auschwitz liberation take place around the world, Jehovah’s Witnesses have released a 32-page digital brochure titled: “Purple Triangles – “Forgotten Victims” of the Nazi Regime”. In a statement, the National Spokesman of the Witnesses in Nigeria, Mr. Olusegun Eroyemi said the group then referred to as Bible Students, suffered inhumane treatment at the Auschwitz- Birkenau Concentration Camp by the Nazi regime “solely on the basis of their religious convictions.
“During its nearly five years of operation, Auschwitz expanded to include a concentration camp, a forced-labor camp, and an extermination camp, as well as over 40 subcamps. Here, the Nazi regime carried out some of the most agonizing human rights abuses against millions of Jews, as well as Poles, Slavs, Roman and Sinti, homosexuals, and people with disabilities, among others. Some 400 Jehovah’s Witnesses of various nationalities, including Polish and German, were also among those victimized at the infamous camp. Four gas chambers claimed as many as 6,000 prisoners’ lives daily.
“A purple-triangle patch stitched near the prisoner number on the left side of uniforms identified Jehovah’s Witnesses who were imprisoned, not for their national or ethnic identity, but for their religious beliefs. “The Nazis offered them freedom if they would renounce their Christian faith and support the regime. Yet, they had the courage to stick to Chris- tian values—loyalty to God and love for others.”
https://newtelegraphng.com/jehovahs-witnesses-release-digital-brochure-to-mark-world-holocaust-day/
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Tahoe
I give up lol
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Sorry, unable to post pictures for some reason. Maybe I'm in a timeout.
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Shaking Down Satan - WT Sues Norway
by Sea Breeze ini wonder how many witnesses are aware that the wt and their team of lawyers are currently suing the government of norway for millions of dollars?
i thought that the wt taught that all the governments were run by satan.
when i was a witness, this would have really bothered me.
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Tahoe
They Jehovah’ed themselves out of nearly $2 million.
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Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses sue Norway after registration revoked
by Tahoe inwe’ve all been following the norway trial.
here is an article to share: https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/world/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked/.
after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year, some human rights experts say the nation’s reputation as a bastion of religious freedom could be in question.. now, the jehovah’s witnesses of norway are suing the state for revoking their national registration and withholding state funds.
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Tahoe
We’ve all been following the Norway trial. Here is an article to share: https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/world/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked/
After Norway deregistered the Jehovah’s Witnesses last year, some human rights experts say the nation’s reputation as a bastion of religious freedom could be in question.
Now, the Jehovah’s Witnesses of Norway are suing the state for revoking their national registration and withholding state funds. According to Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are the first religious group to lose their national registration in Norway, which recognizes more than 700 faith communities.
The trial, which began Jan. 8, will determine whether some practices of the Jehovah’s Witnesses violate Norway’s Religious Communities Act or whether withdrawing the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ registration violates their right to freedom of religion and freedom of association, as guaranteed in the European Convention on Human Rights.
“It’s certainly the most important trial about a religious freedom issue in Norway in decades,” Willy Fautré, director of the Brussels-based organization Human Rights Without Frontiers, told Religion News Service.
Accused of defying Norway’s Religious Communities Act
In January 2022, Valgerd Svarstad Haugland, the county governor of Oslo and Viken, in Norway, denied Jehovah’s Witnesses state grants for the year 2021 in response to concerns about what she perceived as exclusionary practices. The Jehovah’s Witnesses had received the grants, which currently amount to around $1.5 million annually, for three decades.
These funds typically are used for international disaster relief work and supporting religious activity in Norway, including translating literature and building kingdom halls, said Jørgen Pedersen, spokesperson for Jehovah’s Witnesses in Norway.
The county governor of Oslo and Viken claimed Jehovah’s Witnesses are forbidden to contact disfellowshipped members, as well as people who voluntarily dissociate, which can hinder a person’s ability to freely withdraw from the group.
She also argued Jehovah’s Witnesses may disfellowship children who have chosen to be baptized if they break the religious community’s rules, a practice she said constituted “negative social control” and violated children’s rights.
These practices, the county governor argued, defy Norway’s Religious Communities Act.
“We have assessed the offenses as systematic and intentional, and have therefore chosen to refuse grants,” a statement from the county governor said.
Clarifying stance on disfellowship
In an email to RNS, Jehovah’s Witnesses spokesperson Jarrod Lopes said Witnesses only disfellowship an unrepentant member who “makes a practice” of serious violations of “the Bible’s moral code.”
Even then, Lopes added, Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t force members to limit or cease association with former congregants, whether they’ve been disfellowshipped or withdrawn voluntarily—that’s up to individuals.
“Congregation elders do not police the personal lives of congregants, nor do they exercise control over the faith of individual Jehovah’s Witnesses,” Lopes wrote.
Serious sins that might lead to disfellowship include manslaughter, adultery and drug use, Pedersen explained. A congregation always will try to help an individual restore his or her relationship with God. But if the problem persists, Jehovah’s Witnesses feel compelled to respect the entire Bible, including instructions not to associate with unrepentant sinners, such as 1 Corinthians 5:11.
Though the Witnesses appealed the county governor’s decision, in September 2022 the Ministry for Children and Families upheld the ruling.
In October that same year, the county governor said in a press release that unless Jehovah’s Witnesses would “rectify the conditions that led to the refusal of state subsidies,” they would lose registration, which they did a few months later, in December.
Without its national registration, Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot perform marriages, and they lose entitlement to government grants.
Should the state interpret religious texts?
The Jehovah’s Witnesses of Norway filed two lawsuits against the state in December 2022—one challenging the denial of state grants and another challenging their loss of registration. Those lawsuits have since been combined.
Though the Oslo District Court initially granted the Jehovah’s Witnesses an injunction that suspended their deregistration until that case was argued, the Ministry challenged the injunction, and in April 2023, the court removed it.
As the trial plays out at the District Court of Oslo, Jason Wise, an attorney acting as a consultant on the case for the legal team representing the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Norway, said part of the Witnesses’ argument is that there is no evidence of harm and it’s not the place of the state to interpret religious texts.
The state continues to contend that the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practices are in conflict with the Religious Communities Act, particularly, they claim, by exposing children to psychological violence.
Since 2022, Jehovah’s Witnesses have reported an increase in vandalism, harassment and physical assaults in Norway. In September 2022, two Jehovah’s Witnesses in Harstad, Norway, reported that a man screamed at them and repeatedly attempted to hit one of them. That same month, a man in Kristiansand, Norway, reportedly set a Jehovah’s Witnesses mobile display car on fire, and a month later, someone attempted to set fire to a Jehovah’s Witnesses meeting place in Fauske, Norway.
“What we see now is that the state of Norway is taking a look at my beliefs, saying, we don’t like that, we don’t like that,” said Pedersen. Asking Jehovah’s Witnesses to change their beliefs, he said, is a “violation of my integrity as a person, as a religious person, as a person with a conscience. That’s the core issue of this case.”
Norway isn’t the only place where Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practices have been under scrutiny. In December, the Belgian Court of Cassation—the highest court in the Belgian judiciary—rejected an appeal of a lower court’s decision, ruling in favor of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ right to avoid contact with former members.
“Norway is just the tip of another phenomenon,” Fautré said. “That is a source of concern, because we see that there are more and more attempts in Europe by state institutions to interfere and intrude into the teachings and practices of religious groups, which is forbidden by the European Convention. The risk is they would open the door to more court cases against other religious groups.”