for the last year we attended the meeting we would sit in the back room, it was easier with the kids and the "friends" would not even give us the time of day ( So loving) so one night we were going to the back room to get a seat and an elder come up to us and said: "you can't sit in there "(closing the door), you need to go in the front" so i turned to him in reply " well if you are going to come sit with me and take care of my kids and get up every few minutes then i would gladly sit in the front" i then opened the door and sat in my seat needless to say he never looked or talked to us again lol
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Did You Ever Experiment At A New Kingdom Hall By Sitting In the Back, Or Wait To Be Greeted?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inthere is much frustration from jws who attended other kingdom halls because the jws were not friendly and actually smug!
social experiments on jw good manners and the "love that identifies the true christians" did you find it?.
it does not exist because they do not love each other unless they are authorized to from the wts..
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Since Great Crowd has no mediator
by sosoconfused ini am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.
now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.
yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .
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This was the first subject I found out when learning TTATT. I always preached and thought that jesus was a mediator for all ( thats what the bible says , right?), i was so angry when i found out that is not what watchtower says....i don't think the jdubs realize the severity of it , they just go along with whatever they are told.
-My question is, do they explain who the great crowds mediator is or do we just not get one?
they don't go into detail (of course) but they say that jesus is mediator not for all men but for the new covenant made with only the 144,000 and that we the other crowd only benefit from it if we obey the faithful & discrete slave. its there way of control , you do as we say or else!!
I have watchtower copies if you need it
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just got an email from a jw friend
by outofthelionsden inhi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago.
so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "jehovahs organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late..... i have to respond but i know she wont hear ttatt there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.. ( im so heart broken and tiered at this point.
i know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that.
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thanks giordano ! thats what i was doing for , now its up to her...
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just got an email from a jw friend
by outofthelionsden inhi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago.
so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "jehovahs organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late..... i have to respond but i know she wont hear ttatt there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.. ( im so heart broken and tiered at this point.
i know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that.
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thats exactly how it is Newly Enlightened they think god is only available to the watchtower
we left because our conscience could not let us continue following 8 men blindly!!
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just got an email from a jw friend
by outofthelionsden inhi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago.
so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "jehovahs organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late..... i have to respond but i know she wont hear ttatt there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.. ( im so heart broken and tiered at this point.
i know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that.
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wow outsmarthesystem what amazing points you made you hit the nail on the head! i would love to see them try to answer those questions with just the bible alone.
thank you all for all your comments and ideas, i really do appreciate it
i was thinking of sending her this:
Dear so and so,
Thank you for sending me a message I know you did it out of love. So, no i'm not offended I completely understand how you feel. I appreciate your concern for us, you have been the only friend to contact me. I don't want to cause you pain i'm sorry for that, but there are things that i'm sure you don't know about that have caused me to think a lot! I prefer not to go into details, I have no desire to ruin your faith. I know you think that I have left Jehovah but I have not abandoned my faith in him and his Son, if anything I have grown spiritually stronger, even though that might be hard for you to understand. As always your are in my prayers.If you have any questions or comments feel free to ask. Regardless, I value our friendship and i will always love you all and will be your friend unconditionally.
I wanted to keep it loving and simple and leave it up to her if she wants to know TTATT
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just got an email from a jw friend
by outofthelionsden inhi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago.
so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "jehovahs organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late..... i have to respond but i know she wont hear ttatt there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.. ( im so heart broken and tiered at this point.
i know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that.
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions! i know im going to have to reply today to her, i dont want to tell her too much info so ill keep it loving & short to the point ill let you guys know how it goes
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just got an email from a jw friend
by outofthelionsden inhi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago.
so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "jehovahs organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late..... i have to respond but i know she wont hear ttatt there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.. ( im so heart broken and tiered at this point.
i know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that.
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thanks Gojira 101 for your reply! its so sad that its all or nothing for them so conditional! you know how it is in the jw world gossip spreads like wild fire, so last week i noticed that the majority of my fb friend unfriended me lol , i new that would happen but it still crazy. instead of my family coming and talking to me they just decided to cut me off and tell the world about it. I guess freedom come with a price
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omg, that is hilarious
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just got an email from a jw friend
by outofthelionsden inhi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago.
so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "jehovahs organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late..... i have to respond but i know she wont hear ttatt there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.. ( im so heart broken and tiered at this point.
i know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that.
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Hi guys, so i got an email form an old jw friend that i haven't seen in a long time , i moved away to another state a few years ago. so she sent me an email to tell me that she found out that i had left "Jehovahs Organization" and that she has been crying for weeks because she always looked up to me ( i was always that kid that pioneered & always had demonstrations and experiences in the district and circuit assemblies) she said that she's not judging me but that she cant believe i would do that , that i know better and that there is no reason ever to leave and hopes that we wake up before its to late....
i have to respond but i know she wont hear TTATT there deep in, so any suggestions would be appreciated on what to respond.
( im so heart broken and tiered at this point)
I know she is doing it out of love, she's actually the only person that has contacted me, not even my family has done that. the second they found out we had doubts they cut me off as if we were dead.
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New article on JWStruggle, I wrote re: body language & TTATT
by Gojira_101 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/.
gojira.
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great article Gojira_101! Its so true, when my husband and I spoke with a family member about TTATT the body language just spoke for itself, when he got uncomfortable or didnt like what we were saying he would cross his arms, touch his mouth and move his legs a lot, all signs of him closing up!