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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

Only now after years have I made headway with my parents and now my wife's parents.

It's not easy, but that doesn't mean you should give up trying.

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

That's interesting. There are actually many avenues to be explored when helping JWs see the truth.

JWs have such an aversion to the truth, unless it's watered down be watchtowerism to the point that it doesn't resmble the truth anymore.

Like coolaid with rat poison. Watchtower would still call it "coolaid" but it's not "coolaid" anymore... is it?

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

You never know. One day we will be out and will meet many of you.

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

"...informing the public about this Cult"

I like it very much. I just sent a letter to the local newspaper. Well, actually it's more than a letter. I can't go into too much detail, but I put in a copy of the new "Doomsday Tract" as I have been calling it. You know, the one we start to deliver tomorrow.

I will say this, the WTS's tract leaves alot of room for interpretation. Folks might get the wrong idea about the WTS. So I included a paper with quite a few WT quotes so that there will be less confusion.It will be an eye opener.

I wonder if the kingdum hall phone is ringing...?

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

JWdaughter... your Mom is still in? There is a procedure whereby you can help her. But I must saay that in the end, all you may achieve is bettering your personal relationship with her. She may not budge from the Borg.

My mother-in-law knows quite many things. But she sticks. Sometimes the adage holds true, "you can't teach an old dog new tricks." The reason is that the old dog doesn't want to learn. Even if it meant dying, they don't care anymore. I think they feel that life has passed them by.

The older generation has been doing it for so long that even if they were eywitnesses the a governing body orgy which included farm animals, they could still not move. Abused people often seek further abuse. It's a type of mental illness and it's widespread.

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Nanosolution Halts Bleeding (Medical Break Through)

by hawkaw in

nanosolution halts bleeding .

a biodegradable liquid developed at mit and the university of hong kong offers a new way to quickly treat wounds and promote healing.

by jenn director knudsen .

apocalypse

And by the by, we had a great time up there with you guyz. The wife duplicated the pasta dinner already. Sorting the pics. Will send some along.

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Nanosolution Halts Bleeding (Medical Break Through)

by hawkaw in

nanosolution halts bleeding .

a biodegradable liquid developed at mit and the university of hong kong offers a new way to quickly treat wounds and promote healing.

by jenn director knudsen .

apocalypse

This is good news. Modern medicine continues to move forward.

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

There are other ways of helping Dubs from within.

Some I cannot mention because Watchtower trolls are here lurking, hoping to discover the methods used.

I will mention that carefully phrased comments at the book study can go miles. You can throw a wrench into many-a-gearbox with a comment connecting two discordant points.

For instannce. "We shouldn't use blood. But we can allow our blood to be separated and only the allowable portions utilized."

This flies in the face of the average dub's understanding that blood is to be poured out and not used at all. Yet if challenged, you can point in the direction of existing Watchtower dogma. All that is left is a personal struggle for the listener.

Now, someone will say "you can't help them"... "they are all brainwashed"...

They would be missing the point. I am not trying to help everyone. I view the Kingdom Hall like a Borg ship. You can walk down the hallway and as long as you don't disturb the wrong ones, they don't notice you. Borg.

For the most part, I view the dubs as background noise. Like walking through a barnyard full of unthinking animals. But every now and then one of the animals says a word, and you backup and ask "can you talk?" ...to see if you heard right. And it answer "yes". So you have found one of the animals that is more than what he or she appears to be. It has learned to talk and think. This is the one, against the backdrop af mindless noise, where your work begins.

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UNDERGROUND RAILROAD (helping JWs see)

by apocalypse in

i am an "active" jw.

i serve.

give talks.

apocalypse

Kudos to those who have made it past "the barb wire" of The Watchtower Gulag.

One person asked how we discern those who can be helped. Well, it's a process. Little tid bits of info to see if a person responds. Having them over for tea. Drawing them up. Helping them appreciate confidentiality. Providing them with clear proof. Starting off by taking information that they are not cognizant of yet current info. Carefully phrased, you can really throw a wrench in their works. Example: "Hey John, just think that in just a few years, the Watchtower will celebrate the first centenial aniversary of the kingdom. Yes 2014 is just around the corner. Hey, then the're will only be 900 years left of the Kindom.I hope the end comes soon". And try to be sincere, no sarcasm.

How to not get caught. Never allowing yourself to be cornered. Stressing confidentiality. Finding out what pieves the person and making sure that distaste for Watchtower grows enough to keep them silent while persuing the truth.

How to keep going? Now that's harder. So often you want to puke. We miss many meetings. We do other stuff while we are there. You can actually be sitting in the hall and be somewhere else. Bring your own printed material and slip away in your chair.

What do you think if JWD puts up a thread called UNDERGROUND RAILROAD ...?

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Has the WTS unofficially removed the U.N. from it's doctrine?

by Santisimo in

does anyone know if the wts has mentioned the united nations in any of it's magazines aside from the kingdom news publication?

i get thefeeling that the wts has done a complete turn around on this matter and left all the j-dubs out of the loop.. as it is, there is absolutely no sign that the u.n. is trying to destroy religions anywhere in the world.

i can't imagine the u.n. ever taking a stand against radical islam much less the wts.

apocalypse

You make a valid point. My wife and I have both noticed the absence of any UN content.