I beleive I have the fax in my drawer. It is online somewhere. Zev's site I think.
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Watchtower and the UN-latest development.
by apocalypse inlooks like everyone missed it.
i will clue everyone in.
first, in the way of history, the wtbts got linked up with the un as an ngo (non-governmental organization).to do so, the watchtower had to conform to the rules.
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Watchtower and the UN-latest development.
by apocalypse inlooks like everyone missed it.
i will clue everyone in.
first, in the way of history, the wtbts got linked up with the un as an ngo (non-governmental organization).to do so, the watchtower had to conform to the rules.
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Looks like everyone missed it. I will clue everyone in.
First, in the way of history, the WTBTS got linked up with the UN as an NGO (Non-Governmental Organization).To do so, the Watchtower had to conform to the rules. (rules which the Governing Liars deny knowledge of)
The rules were that they had to print UN promotional information in one of their journals. That ended up being the Awake! magazine. Many pro-UN individual articles were printed and submitted to the UN as proof that the Watchtower was conforming to the rules governing NGO's. Note that during the investigation of Watchtower, we received as a proof, a facsimile copy from the UN office (DPI) of an Awake article written for the sole purpose of being submitted by Watchtower to the DPI at UN HQ in adherence to the rules that Watchtower knows nothing about )
I still haven't gotten to the good part.
Now recently, after all that's happened, we have seen more Awake articles about the UN very similar to the ones written originally for the sole purpose of conforming to UN regulations governing NGO's. This has led to speculation that the WTBTS is planning to do it again.
No. That's not what's going on.
First, ask yourself this question. Did we really expect to see WT drop the articles about the UN?
If they did suddenly cease writing articles about the UN in that way when they were caught with their pants down, then wouldn't that confirm that they knew the rules, followed the rules ?and hence lied about not knowing?
Here's what's happening friends.
Of course the WT realized that they couldn?t stop cold turkey in their UN promotional articles. That would be stark confirmation that they were printing them for the sole purpose of submitting them to DPI for being an NGO. Now, we don?t need to go far to get proof, as I said we received a fax from DPI of an Awake! article submitted to DPI in conformation with the rules (which WT supposedly knew nothing about) so that?s not the point. We know their deeds.
The point is, they would of course want to stop the UN promo?s. But they can?t stop just like that. They need to enlist the Serpent to put on a face of fakery.
So they keep it up until such a time as they announce:
?More Emphasis on the Bible? km-E 3/05
5 Hence, from January 2006, Awake! will place greater emphasis on God?s Kingdom.
Yes, just as the taxation issue in California drove them to drop the price tag from their literature and the issue was subsequently hidden behind the fakery of a spiritualized love of fellowman etc with a trumped up reason for the change (a lie), now the Watchtower does the same thing here!
Watchtower has again invited Satan into their midst to help conceal the truth. Satan tells them ?invent a lie to cover the truth? and so WT does. They offer the guise in the KM about how the Awake will take a new, more spiritual approach ?since we are so close to the end? ?blah-blah.
Yet the truth is simple. Watchtower needs to drop the UN charade but appear to do it for other than the true reason, namely that they got caught with their pants down on the UN debacle and now the Awake is a liability for which they have no purpose.
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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I think it's going to pop sooner than they think.
To the GB who I know will read this, I say the below...
A few years ago, I was at the Skydome in TO Canada for the convention. One of you GB serpents gave a talk and mentioned "those who mis-represent our message".... remember.... I am sure you do.
Prepare yourselves ...last time was just practice. Welcome to 2005
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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Thanks for the quotes Blondie. It's become all too simple now to show what they've claimed. Simple only here in apostacyberville.
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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I am surprised that Blondie didn't pick up on it. She's pretty good.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-3-05 WT Study (complete)
by blondie inwhom do you see at this place of worship?
christian identity or their identity as jehovah?s witnesses?.
faith and confidence in?his organization?in jehovah and his promises which can only be explained by the wts.
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Blondie. I appreciate your work. My wife reads you every week just before we go to the WT study. Gets her blood up in a boil. She is wananexit.
Just a note. I think you missed the most important thing in this article. The link below will take you there.
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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The Watchtower told a big lie in order to protect themselves.
Moses claimed to speak on behalf of God Almighty. The Watchtower claims nothing less today.
On the surface, the paragraph is talking about the Moses/ Pharaoh relationship. In reality, it's talking about the Watchtower / naysayer relationship.
People say that Watchtower IS NOT speaking for Jehovah, but rather on behalf of their own agendas and lust for power. (the proof of this is clear) So Watchtower invents what is called a "straw man argument". Like a "straw man" in a cornfield, it is intended to scare away the crows.
The crows in this case are the naysayers against Watchtower. But remember that a scarecrow is just a stuffed shirt. There's no substance. It's false.
Watchtower said that Pharaoh doubted Moses, they say that Pharaoh didn't believe that Moses was really speaking for Jehovah. Yet the Scriptures bear out Pharaoh?s own words betraying the truth.
Pharaoh DID believe and acted accordingly. Th Bible shows that, and so no verse was sited by WT.
The demons at WT just said in par. 9 to verify from the Bible, and then LIE five paragraphs later. A lie told to cover up their false claim to divine speech. A lie told to divert attention. A lie invented in order to place into teh mind of JWs a defense against those who speak contrary to WT claim to divinity of speech.
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
by apocalypse inevil lives
monday, april 11, 2005
-if ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the watchtower ?then read on.
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Evil Lives Monday, April 11, 2005
-If ever in your mind you wonder as to whether the leadership at Watchtower has some level of sincerity, or perhaps as you move deeper into your pursuit of the real truth, you find yourself having doubts that you are doing the right thing in "doubting" the Watchtower ?then read on.
The Watchtower of Feb. 15/05 studied just last week (April 3/05) provided this reader with one of the best examples of pure literary evil composed by Watchtower till this time. It is found on page 21 par. 14 and is below quoted.
14 ?"No plague or miracle- not even the loss of his firstborn son- was able to persuade Pharaoh that Moses was speaking on behalf of Jehovah."
If you don't immediately see what is wrong with this and where it's leading, then keep reading.
Reflect back to the same article just 5 paragraphs earlier. It relates the below quoted.
9 Prove Bible truth to yourself.
...Every Christian -young or old- needs to prove to his own satisfaction that what he believes is indeed the truth as found in the Bible.
Ask then this question. Where in the Bible does it say, or even infer, that Pharaoh didn?t believe Moses claim that he was speaking on behalf of God Almighty?
It simply doesn?t. In fact it plainly states the opposite!
Are you starting to read between the lines to see the sinister motive in printing paragraph 14?
No sooner did The Watchtower tell the reader in par. 9 that they should be sure that what they are learning from The Watchtower is ?the truth as found in the Bible? then they drop this bombshell in paragraph 14 with a complete fabrication. A LIE.
Quoting from the NWT we read.
(Exodus 5:2) . . .But Phar´aoh said: ?Who is Jehovah, so that I should obey his voice to send Israel away? I do not know Jehovah at all and, what is more, I am not going to send Israel away.?
(Exodus 8:8) 8 In time Phar´aoh called Moses and Aaron and said: ?Entreat Jehovah that he may remove the frogs from me and my people, as I want to send the people away that they may sacrifice to Jehovah. . .
Does this sound like a man that had trouble with the idea ?that Moses was speaking on behalf of Jehovah???
Pharoah was in complete acceptance of the idea ?that Moses was speaking on behalf of Jehovah? as is revealed in THE BIBLE!
The watchtower set up a ?straw man argument? to fool the reader.
So Watchtower wants the reader to accept this evil invention, and the reader will please not that there?s not one Scripture salient in this paragraph to back up this concoction. Oh, Watchtower is quick to site the Scripture if they can. For sure, if the words ?faithful slave? are mentioned in the paragraph, they will site Matthew 24:45-48 like clockwork.
But not one word from ?the truth as found in the Bible?.
So what is Watchtower really after? Please read the revision below.
14 No plague or miracle will able to persuade people that Watchtower was speaking on behalf of Jehovah.
Yes, the paragraph went on, ?Therefore, do not let fear of man paralyze you.?
The intent of paragraph 14 was pure un-adulterated mind control in an effort to place into the mind of the reader, using a ?straw man?, a mental defense mechanism against those who would try to say to a JW that the Watchtower is really not speaking on behalf of Jehovah. Yet there was no basis in the Bible whatsoever in the account of Pharoah or any other such instance, and so the Watchtower sited NO SCRIPTURE AT ALL. They knew all too well it was a LIE.
Since I know for a fact, from the mouth of a Circuit Overseer, that Watchtower monitors this site, I want to speak directly to the brother who is now reading this post.
I tell you, relay this message to you know who.
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You bastards. You propagate this demonic evil and you are going to pay with your very lives. Will I rise up against you? Certainly I shall not have to. The object of your demise is already at work. For those to whom you look for help will themselves certainly remove from you your self-appointment. They will come, not in the night, but in the daylight. Just when you are sure that your position is secure, they will take from you your head.
You have advanced, not Christ, but your own agenda. You have had your reward in full. Boast in yourself further. Make big boasts. Claim His throne itself and seat yourself on it. Your time has come. Your future is dark. Your end has arrived.
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Memorial experiences 2005 thread
by Jez inlets put all of our memorial stories/thoughts on one thread.
mine: 45 mins.
quick and boring.
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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/87644/1458796/post.ashx#1458796
From the other memorial thread.
I thought I'd place it here.
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I WENT TO THE MEMORIAL LAST NIGHT.....
by Mary inand i think that the wts's "waters are drying up".
we had two congregations meet and the hall still wasn't full!
i noticed a change in the talk from last year.
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We would have been glad to have you.
Of course, we had to do all this right under their noses.
Can you imagine participating?