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JWs in "Masterpiece Theater" this Sunday

by fjtoth in

a lifelike family of jws will be featured in this sunday's "masterpiece theater" on pbs.

check your local listings for time and station.

it's scheduled for 9 p.m. eastern daylight time.

fjtoth

neyank,

I've got friends in the Boston area, but I live near Toronto.

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WT's Billions $$$$$$$ & and NOT one Nursing Home for the Old

by JT in

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friends

as i looked at these photos i could not help but to think of the $$$$$$ billions that they own around the world and they have not setup one retirement home for it's members.

outside of any members who are bethelites such as co, do, missionaries who have spent 40-60yr of service to the corp they have no where to go.

how sad.

fjtoth

Another text that proves to me that JWs have a false religion is 1 John 3:17-19:

But whoever has the world's goods, and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him? Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth. We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him.

Still another is Galatians 6:9, 10:

Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

Above all, I'm convinced due to the way the Society has twisted and messed up the meaning of Matthew 25:34-46 (Contemporary English Translation):

Then the king will say to those on his right, "My father has blessed you! Come and receive the kingdom that was prepared for you before the world was created. When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat, and when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I was a stranger, you welcomed me, and when I was naked, you gave me clothes to wear. When I was sick, you took care of me, and when I was in jail, you visited me."
Then the ones who pleased the Lord will ask, "When did we give you something to eat or drink? When did we welcome you as a stranger or give you clothes to wear or visit you while you were sick or in jail?"
The king will answer, "Whenever you did it for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me."
Then the king will say to those on his left, "Get away from me! You are under God's curse. Go into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels! I was hungry, but you did not give me anything to eat, and I was thirsty, but you did not give me anything to drink. I was a stranger, but you did not welcome me, and I was naked, but you did not give me any clothes to wear. I was sick and in jail, but you did not take care of me."
Then the people will ask, "Lord, when did we fail to help you when you were hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in jail?"
The king will say to them, "Whenever you failed to help any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you failed to do it for me."
Then Jesus said, "Those people will be punished forever. But the ones who pleased God will have eternal life."

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JWs in "Masterpiece Theater" this Sunday

by fjtoth in

a lifelike family of jws will be featured in this sunday's "masterpiece theater" on pbs.

check your local listings for time and station.

it's scheduled for 9 p.m. eastern daylight time.

fjtoth

There is another article about Sunday's TV program at

http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/tom_walker/article/0,1426,MCA_515_1950693,00.html

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JWs in "Masterpiece Theater" this Sunday

by fjtoth in

a lifelike family of jws will be featured in this sunday's "masterpiece theater" on pbs.

check your local listings for time and station.

it's scheduled for 9 p.m. eastern daylight time.

fjtoth

A lifelike family of JWs will be featured in this Sunday's "Masterpiece Theater" on PBS. Check your local listings for time and station. It's scheduled for 9 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/129/living/Dickens_meets_Altman_in_White_Teeth_+.shtml

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Tuesday's CBS Program is Now Online

by fjtoth in

cbs has now posted online what i think is the full program that was shown tuesday night, minus dan rather's comments.

you can watch it by going to the following web page:

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml

CBS has now posted online what I think is the FULL program that was shown Tuesday night, minus Dan Rather's comments. You can watch it by going to the following web page: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml Then click the button for "Video: Jehovah's Witnesses Under Fire." You might have to wait a few minutes for the file to download.

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I watched the CBS news

by DJ in

long segment.

i'm sad that they did not report the fact that where there is no law to report molesters......the jw's don't.

that being said would have made an impact.

fjtoth

The following now appears at the CBS web page: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml.

Another Church Sex Scandal

SOUTHERN MINNESOTA, April 29, 2003
(CBS) Like any mom, Heidi Meyer fixes boo-boos, serves up breakfast and even reviews some math homework.

But every day is a fight for this mom to overcome her past.

"Basically any way that he could put his hands on me, he did," she told CBS News Correspondent Jane Clayson.

From the time she was 10, until she turned 13, Heidi, a Jehovah's Witness, says she was molested by a member of her congregation. Finally, she turned to the leaders of her faith.

And what did they say?

"They asked me, do you think this could be a misunderstanding? And I said, no. No, I'm very sure of how his hands were on my body and there's no way to misunderstand that," Meyer said.

But the elders dismissed her plea for help and sent her away with a warning: "You need to keep quiet about this. You don't want to drag his name through the mud. You don't want to drag the name of Jehovah's organization through the mud."

Bill Bowen, an elder for more than 20 years explained, "Anything that an elder says is viewed as the direct word of God."

Bowen, a former Jehovah's Witness went on, "You could even be excommunicated for questioning what an elder tells you to do. There's no negotiation here. You must obey what the elders direct."

But what silences most victims is that Jehovah's Witnesses require either a confession or two eyewitnesses to any accusation -- making sexual abuse almost impossible to prove.

For Leanna Morley, in Oregon, the abuse started when she was five.

"It's time that the people knew about the secrets that happen in that religion," she said. "It was a living hell."

Sue was seven years old and living in Washington. Her molester later made a chilling confession. He said there were 24 to 42 little girls that he had molested -- he couldn't remember how many exactly.

Bill Bowen says by the end of the year he expects at least 100 lawsuits to be filed against the faith.

The problem is huge, he said. "It's of global proportions. You're talking about tens of thousands of children who've been molested in the last ten years. Tens of thousands, easily."

The Jehovah's Witnesses Headquarters disputes these numbers but says they're aware of the problem -- and cites a letter it published last May. It says "we have long instructed elders to report allegations of child abuse to the authorities where required by law to do so, even where there is only one witness."

There is another letter. It denies Heidi Meyer's charges, saying "... no child abuse involved."

For Heidi, it's another betrayal by a faith she trusted and turned to for help.

"These are your spiritual leaders, these are men appointed by God in the eyes of Jehovah's Witnesses, and who was I? You know, I was just some kid."

As a mom she's still fighting to overcome her past -- even choosing to home school her son because she's afraid to leave him with others.

Also:

Jehovah's Witness William Bowen, Attorney Jeff Anderson and plaintiff Heidi Meyer announce a civil lawsuit filed against the Jehovah's Witness headquarters on Tuesday, July 2, 2002. (AP)

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CBS NEWS IS GOING TO SHOW THE JWs

by teenyuck in

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friends

.

the next segment is the dubs.....they showed a kh!!!

!.

fjtoth

The following now appears at the CBS web page: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml.

Another Church Sex Scandal

SOUTHERN MINNESOTA, April 29, 2003
(CBS) Like any mom, Heidi Meyer fixes boo-boos, serves up breakfast and even reviews some math homework.

But every day is a fight for this mom to overcome her past.

"Basically any way that he could put his hands on me, he did," she told CBS News Correspondent Jane Clayson.

From the time she was 10, until she turned 13, Heidi, a Jehovah's Witness, says she was molested by a member of her congregation. Finally, she turned to the leaders of her faith.

And what did they say?

"They asked me, do you think this could be a misunderstanding? And I said, no. No, I'm very sure of how his hands were on my body and there's no way to misunderstand that," Meyer said.

But the elders dismissed her plea for help and sent her away with a warning: "You need to keep quiet about this. You don't want to drag his name through the mud. You don't want to drag the name of Jehovah's organization through the mud."

Bill Bowen, an elder for more than 20 years explained, "Anything that an elder says is viewed as the direct word of God."

Bowen, a former Jehovah's Witness went on, "You could even be excommunicated for questioning what an elder tells you to do. There's no negotiation here. You must obey what the elders direct."

But what silences most victims is that Jehovah's Witnesses require either a confession or two eyewitnesses to any accusation -- making sexual abuse almost impossible to prove.

For Leanna Morley, in Oregon, the abuse started when she was five.

"It's time that the people knew about the secrets that happen in that religion," she said. "It was a living hell."

Sue was seven years old and living in Washington. Her molester later made a chilling confession. He said there were 24 to 42 little girls that he had molested -- he couldn't remember how many exactly.

Bill Bowen says by the end of the year he expects at least 100 lawsuits to be filed against the faith.

The problem is huge, he said. "It's of global proportions. You're talking about tens of thousands of children who've been molested in the last ten years. Tens of thousands, easily."

The Jehovah's Witnesses Headquarters disputes these numbers but says they're aware of the problem -- and cites a letter it published last May. It says "we have long instructed elders to report allegations of child abuse to the authorities where required by law to do so, even where there is only one witness."

There is another letter. It denies Heidi Meyer's charges, saying "... no child abuse involved."

For Heidi, it's another betrayal by a faith she trusted and turned to for help.

"These are your spiritual leaders, these are men appointed by God in the eyes of Jehovah's Witnesses, and who was I? You know, I was just some kid."

As a mom she's still fighting to overcome her past -- even choosing to home school her son because she's afraid to leave him with others.

Also:

Jehovah's Witness William Bowen, Attorney Jeff Anderson and plaintiff Heidi Meyer announce a civil lawsuit filed against the Jehovah's Witness headquarters on Tuesday, July 2, 2002. (AP)

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SilentLambs on CBS TONIGHT (Tuesday)!

by UnDisfellowshipped in

jw
friends

i just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't hear about it yet, that the silentlambs (jehovah's witness child abuse victims) are going to be interviewed tonight on "cbs evening news" (6:30 eastern time; 5:30 central time).. i believe child abuse survivors heidi and amber, and also bill bowen are going to appear on the program, but i am not 100% sure.. i saw the tv commercial for the interview, and the commercial said it was coming on tuesday, april 29th, 2003 on cbs evening news!.

"beyond the catholic church -- another church under fire for child sexual abuse scandal".

set your vcrs!.

fjtoth

The following now appears at the CBS web page: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml.

Another Church Sex Scandal

SOUTHERN MINNESOTA, April 29, 2003 (CBS) Like any mom, Heidi Meyer fixes boo-boos, serves up breakfast and even reviews some math homework.

But every day is a fight for this mom to overcome her past.

"Basically any way that he could put his hands on me, he did," she told CBS News Correspondent Jane Clayson.

From the time she was 10, until she turned 13, Heidi, a Jehovah's Witness, says she was molested by a member of her congregation. Finally, she turned to the leaders of her faith.

And what did they say?

"They asked me, do you think this could be a misunderstanding? And I said, no. No, I'm very sure of how his hands were on my body and there's no way to misunderstand that," Meyer said.

But the elders dismissed her plea for help and sent her away with a warning: "You need to keep quiet about this. You don't want to drag his name through the mud. You don't want to drag the name of Jehovah's organization through the mud."

Bill Bowen, an elder for more than 20 years explained, "Anything that an elder says is viewed as the direct word of God."

Bowen, a former Jehovah's Witness went on, "You could even be excommunicated for questioning what an elder tells you to do. There's no negotiation here. You must obey what the elders direct."

But what silences most victims is that Jehovah's Witnesses require either a confession or two eyewitnesses to any accusation -- making sexual abuse almost impossible to prove.

For Leanna Morley, in Oregon, the abuse started when she was five.

"It's time that the people knew about the secrets that happen in that religion," she said. "It was a living hell."

Sue was seven years old and living in Washington. Her molester later made a chilling confession. He said there were 24 to 42 little girls that he had molested -- he couldn't remember how many exactly.

Bill Bowen says by the end of the year he expects at least 100 lawsuits to be filed against the faith.

The problem is huge, he said. "It's of global proportions. You're talking about tens of thousands of children who've been molested in the last ten years. Tens of thousands, easily."

The Jehovah's Witnesses Headquarters disputes these numbers but says they're aware of the problem -- and cites a letter it published last May. It says "we have long instructed elders to report allegations of child abuse to the authorities where required by law to do so, even where there is only one witness."

There is another letter. It denies Heidi Meyer's charges, saying "... no child abuse involved."

For Heidi, it's another betrayal by a faith she trusted and turned to for help.

"These are your spiritual leaders, these are men appointed by God in the eyes of Jehovah's Witnesses, and who was I? You know, I was just some kid."

As a mom she's still fighting to overcome her past -- even choosing to home school her son because she's afraid to leave him with others.

Also:

Jehovah's Witness William Bowen, Attorney Jeff Anderson and plaintiff Heidi Meyer announce a civil lawsuit filed against the Jehovah's Witness headquarters on Tuesday, July 2, 2002. (AP)

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SilentLambs on CBS TONIGHT (Tuesday)!

by UnDisfellowshipped in

jw
friends

i just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't hear about it yet, that the silentlambs (jehovah's witness child abuse victims) are going to be interviewed tonight on "cbs evening news" (6:30 eastern time; 5:30 central time).. i believe child abuse survivors heidi and amber, and also bill bowen are going to appear on the program, but i am not 100% sure.. i saw the tv commercial for the interview, and the commercial said it was coming on tuesday, april 29th, 2003 on cbs evening news!.

"beyond the catholic church -- another church under fire for child sexual abuse scandal".

set your vcrs!.

fjtoth

You can see a preview of tonight's CBS News focus on JWs by going to the following website: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml. Once there, go to the fourth column and click on "ENTER" alongside the picture of Dan Rather.

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What ELSE is wrong with the WT Society and JWs?

by fjtoth in

teaching that true christianity is an organization instead of a way of life

centralizing authority in an organization instead of letting christ be the head of each christian

claiming salvation is dependent upon belonging to the jw denomination

fjtoth

Rayzor,

I lost some good friends in the 9/11 terrorist bombings in NYC. I think you'd understand a bit better my response to Andy if you read his four posts at

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/50081/2.ashx

Personally, I wonder why very few have felt incensed enough to repudiate his incendiary messages. This is not a time for anybody to be even making jokes or wisecracks about the use of bombs and terrorism for the purpose of destroying people we don't agree with. Angry as any of us may be against the WT Society, we do more than just cross the line when we speak in such terms. There is no excuse for such foolish speech.