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  Sex before marriage as a Witness okay, if ...

  by free2beme in

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  ... you actually get married.

  if you end up having sex and then breaking up, trust me, someone is going to tell the elders.

  saw it happen more times then i could ever count.

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  fjtoth

  This thread reminds me of how the Watchtower Society plays God.

  If you have pre-marital sex before you became a JW, no discipline is administered by the organization. You have to face the music only if you do it after becoming an associate and especially after baptism as a JW.

  The same applies to divorce on "unscriptural" grounds, and to re-marriage. You're free to become a JW. All is forgiven, no questions asked. The Society speaks for God. Just don't get caught doing such things AFTER you become a JW!

  A former thief doesn't have to make restitution for all the things he stole even if he professed to being a Christian before his baptism as a JW. The WT Society has "authority from God" to say a former Baptist, Pentecostal or other person who underwent immersion in a non-JW religion is free and clear. It would be "nice" if he paid everything back, but he doesn't need to. He's totally forgiven -- God (the WT Society) has spoken. Only if he steals after becoming a JW or an associate does he have to pay for his crimes--before God (the WT Society and its "elders").

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  Creationism - Evolution humor

  by TD in

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  i tried a serious topic on this subject and got a grand total of 1 response

  how about some humor for a change?

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  The real humour is in how very sad the argument of the cartoonist really is. Bacteria don't evolve. What "evolves" (increases) is the population or number of stronger bacteria. New kinds of bacteria don't spring into existence. The very opposite takes place. Some existing forms become extinct, allowing stronger forms to become more plentiful.

  Growth in the population of strong bacteria is observable, but there is absolutely no evidence of new KINDS of bacteria. For example, ordinary bacteria don't survive very well in the antiseptic environment of a hospital. Only the antiseptic-resistant varieties are able to survive there. The reason why they survive is that they don’t absorb antibiotics very well. The reason why they don’t absorb antibiotics very well is that they don’t absorb anything well, including nutrients. Outside the hospital environment, they have to compete with other bacteria that do absorb nutrients well. Consequently, the so-called "super bugs" starve to death when they have to compete with ordinary bacteria because they are less fit for survival under normal circumstances.

  Drugs do not create new forms of viruses or bacteria. Drugs merely eliminate some variants, allowing existing variants to become more plentiful. It is the relative numbers of the various kinds of critters that change, not the critters themselves.
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  Letter to Irish newspaper

  by IT Support in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  last week there were reports of the sad death of a young irish jw, sarah o'leary.

  i haven't noticed if anyone else wrote to the irish newspapers, but this is the letter i wrote:

  gorey echo, friday 2 dec: "father tells of sorrow on losing sarah" .

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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  fjtoth

  Here's my guess:

  The WT Society is going to admit that its chronology leading up to 1914 is in error. They won't be able to hide this any longer because experts are going to expose this fact in a big way somehow. Further, the Society will acknowledge that doubts about 1914 have existed among the leadership since the time Ray Franz and Ed Dunlap and others raised the issue.

  The Society will further admit that their explanation of Matthew 24 and 25 is a forced explanation. Sooner or later they will be forced to acknowledge that they are no different than the false prophets who preached wrong dates in every generation since the days of early Christianity.
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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  ontario, canada

  by telltruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hope everyone is having a good day.

  wondering how many fellow ontarians there are here?

  please drop in and say hello, thank you.

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  fjtoth

  Hi Grace!

  Thanks for your concern. I'm working 6 days a week these days, and I'm usually out of town all day on Sundays. Since I'm usually home only late at night, I don't have a phone anymore. My line is connected to a computer. All the best.

  Frank
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  ontario, canada

  by telltruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hope everyone is having a good day.

  wondering how many fellow ontarians there are here?

  please drop in and say hello, thank you.

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  fjtoth

  ackack,

  No, I'm not related to other Toths in Ontario.
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  Evil Slave

  by loosie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok this maybe a jw urban legend.

  but does anyone remember jw's talking about an eveil slave class?.

  my mom told me that there is an actualy evil slave class just like there is a faithful and discreet slave class.. she also told me that the evil slave class lives in florida.. has anyone else heard this, or had my mom been drinking when she told me this?.

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  fjtoth

  The Watchtower Society brands "anointed" members who leave the organization as members of the "evil slave" or "evil servant" class. So, the Society speaks of "apostates" in a general sense, applying the term to both "anointed" and non-anointed JWs who leave. But "anointed" ones are in a special class: "that evil servant." Most of them left the organization around the time J. F. Rutherford siezed control of the Society. They left and formed various splinter groups completely independent of the Society, such as Layman's Home Missionary Society, Pastoral Bible Institute, Stand Fast Bible Students Association, and Dawn Bible Students. These denominations continue to exist today, though most of their original "anointed" members have died off.

  To distinguish his followers from these dissident groups, Rutherford gave his followers the name "Jehovah's Witnesses."
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  ontario, canada

  by telltruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hope everyone is having a good day.

  wondering how many fellow ontarians there are here?

  please drop in and say hello, thank you.

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  fjtoth

  I'm in Erin, Ontario. I work in Georgetown near the JW Canadian headquarters which was my prison home for about 10 years.