a journalist's account of the killing of a car full of iraqi civilians by us soldiers differs widely from the official military version, says brian whitaker .
tuesday april 1, 2003 .
the invasion forces suffered another self-inflicted disaster in the battle for hearts and minds yesterday when soldiers from the us 3rd infantry division shot dead iraqi seven women and children.
Independent accounts state that not only was a warning shot fired, a volley of rounds were fired into the radiator
if that is true.... again £&*kin good checkpoint.
and who are these that made independent acco unts? no need for links just tell me who they are and whether they were at the scene at the time it happened. and is a BBC re porter not an independent eyewitness? usually the BBC would have a slight bias for the coalition, so why would he be lying?
a journalist's account of the killing of a car full of iraqi civilians by us soldiers differs widely from the official military version, says brian whitaker .
tuesday april 1, 2003 .
the invasion forces suffered another self-inflicted disaster in the battle for hearts and minds yesterday when soldiers from the us 3rd infantry division shot dead iraqi seven women and children.
I find it highly unususal that a vehicle loaded with Iraqi's of any gender wouldn't obey signs in their language that said "Warning, you must STOP".
as far as i know from BBC news reports, there were no signs at this check point, no soldiers to wave the vehicle to stop, just 2 APC's/light tanks at a road junction. a BBC reporter who was there at the scene who was an eyewitness to what happened, says that no warning shot was fired, contrary to what the US officer involved claims.
£&*kin' good checkpoint that is.
i'm sure family members of the dead have got that 'liberated' feeling none the less.
it might be a good idea to let some real soldiers(british) who are experienced in these situations to deal with checkpoints, civies etc.
if you dont know what that 'liberated' feeling is, then this is what it looks like...
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news/page.cfm?objectid=12790727&method=full&siteid=106694
president's remarks to traitorous peacemonger democrats: "last call to hop on board the bloodwagon!
bury your principles in red-hot, shockin' awesome war porn!
statement by the president .
it's march 31. last day of the big round-up, isn't it?.
well i haven't seen the merest hint of a shepherds crook, let alone a crooked shepherd.
and you'd think i'd be an easy mark, what with the jw wife to let the elders in.
no visit for me either . although a couple of ms's and pubs have been around to see me, but i fobbed 2 ms's off as they came around early one saturday morning, and another time i didnt hear another ms and his wife knock. so its been pretty great really.
i find it amusing that milton henschel is accurately described, not as a "theologian" or "minister," but as an "executive.".
here ya go:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/30/obituaries/30hens.html?ex=1049605200&en=36708e6cabbd6fc3&ei=5062&partner=google.
didnt he die during a satanic ritual?
there have been some news articles recently (on netscape news, google news, etc.
) in which some people have proposed the belief that the current iraq war (operation iraqi freedom) will result in the fulfillment of isaiah chapter 13's prophecy against babylon (modern-day iraq is where babylon used to be), in which the entire land of babylon [iraq] will be destroyed and will become un-inhabitable.
here is isaiah chapter 13:.
another 'Modern Day Fulfilment'! dont you just love that phrase?
can someone clarify for me.....is this the new line witnesses are takin?.
whilst i was at my moms about a week ago, she told me that an close elder friend of the family had been discussing this with her tying the un in with the prophecy in daniel.. i didn't particularly want to discuss it with her as it would just open up a can of worms to argue with her, so i nipped the conversation in the bud.
but is this the wts new line of thinking or just the elders individual interpretation.. cheers dig.
i think it always has been regarded as the 8th world power. but whether they regard it at the moment as being the an 8th world power is something else. it'd be embarrasing to say that at the moment with the UN being undermined. but could UN become the 8th world power? i still think so, imo.
i dont think Daniel has anything to do with the UN being/becoming the 8th world power. i this came from Revelation. the WTS interpretation on Daniel is awfull.
i believe that in order to effectively immunize a person against the disease of watchtowerism, it is necessary to bring them to a full, conscious understanding of their tactics.
i am currently working on a document for my son that shows how the society uses faulty logic to make their points.
the document lists several common logical fallacies and then provides examples from the societys teachings.
thanks RM
its good to get your head around these points now and again. i dont like to argue with people, so i tend to forget these rules. this is a good reminder. thanks.
an interesting article which somewhat reflects my own take on what i see happening.
please note that this does not put any judgement on whether i think it is a good thing or not so please do not "shoot the messenger".. whether you believe or accept the points or not it is an interesting read.
i personally think that the action bush has taken in the last few years has done more harm to the usa than it's enemies ever could which is surely a crime?..
iraq converted it's reserves into Euros in 2000
n korea converted its reserves to Euros in 2002
venezuela now barters oil for goods and services with s american countries
foriegn investment decline in the US
Euro now stronger than the dollar
russians buying gold instead of the dollar
OPEC in discussion using the Euro instead of the dollar
America goes to war with a country with the second biggest oil reserve in the world
Russia, Germany and France against the war
anyone notice a pattern?
"Pop your cork for the Euro, my little don perignons!"
lol, , i and many anti-bush people were right.
hate to say this, but told ya so!
http://money.cnn.com/2003/03/25/news/companies/war_contracts/index.htm.
US firm wins Umm Qasr deal
