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  Do you support gay marriage?

  by chappy in

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  is your belief moral, social or practical?

  would you feel the same way if there were absolutely no religious influence on the matter pro or con?.

  regardless of your belief, does every adult have a fundimental right to marry anyone of his or her choosing, regardless of gender?.

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  Dorayakii

  Its not really an issue that ive spent many hours pondering over

  Funnily enough, neither have I, but a friend that's a lawyer for the Scottish Exec was just telling me yesterday that it's a question they're having to respond to. And it's a little more interesting than the usual gay marriage question that has been eternally hashed out here.

  LT

  Stoning was always over a little too quick. The scolds bridle and a hot stake are my preferred punishment. Perhaps the latter could be an alternative to windfarms round your way, keep you toasty!
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  Do you support gay marriage?

  by chappy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is your belief moral, social or practical?

  would you feel the same way if there were absolutely no religious influence on the matter pro or con?.

  regardless of your belief, does every adult have a fundimental right to marry anyone of his or her choosing, regardless of gender?.

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  dorayakii

  would have have them lose that particular right, prisons are becoming less and less of a punishment and more of a hotel or holiday camp

  lol, you're sounding liberal and daily mail reader in the same post!

  If we allow heterosexual prisoners to have prison marriages then homosexual prisoners must be permitted to marry their partners under EU civil rights legislation. So is it only prisoners marrying prisoners and cohabiting that should be prevented, or should we stop homosexual prisoners having the 'privilege' of cohabiting with their lovers?
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  Why I'll never see 'Brokeback Mountain'

  by yaddayadda in

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  yep, i'm 'homophobic' and damn proud of it!

  http://www.rense.com/general69/prop.htm

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  scotsman

  Im not homophobic, but I turned it off not long after the sex scene. It grossed me out, plain and simple.

  The pirated version must have been different to the screened version I saw which had two men struggling about in a tent, clothed.

  And for all those that seem to think this represents Hollywoods gay agend, it's existed as a short story by Anni Proux for a few years, why weren't y'all complaining about that being published? Where was your nausea, disgust and disapproval?

  Or can't you read?

  Some folks just need to get out more.
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  Do you support gay marriage?

  by chappy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is your belief moral, social or practical?

  would you feel the same way if there were absolutely no religious influence on the matter pro or con?.

  regardless of your belief, does every adult have a fundimental right to marry anyone of his or her choosing, regardless of gender?.

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  scotsman

  Of course I support gay marriage and I'm quite content with a civil partnership, but I'd like to muddy the water a little.

  Since December 2005 in the UK Civil Partnerships have given same sex partnerships the same legal rights as marriage does to heterosexuals and as a result some prisoners are demanding the right to form a Civil Partnership with their cohabiting partners. If this is permitted it will no doubt be deemed as discriminatory to heterosexual prisoners who cannot cohabit, even if their partners are in prison. So should prison inmates be permitted to form civil partnerships with same sex prisoners?
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  Bethel "Vow of Poverty" documents scanned.

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  vow of poverty scanned from 2002 documents.

  i believe these are the latest ones unless someone has a newer one.

  i posted these in another thread but i thought it deserved its own.. ocrd with 98% accuracy.... initial cover page 1 of 4. vow of obedience and povertyto the.

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  Is there a similar vow for Bethelites in non USA territories?
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  UK & IRELAND MAP

  by ballistic in

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  i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).

  (and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).

  anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.

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  scotsman

  And you can put me in Edinburgh.
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  Slippers / shoes at book studies

  by billyboy in

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  hi everyone!

  was there ever an issue as to whether you were / weren't allowed to wear shoes at a group book study in someones house , so everyone had to dump their shoes at the door?.

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  scotsman

  It is just good manners.

  To some people in some parts of the world. Some of us may find it rather declasse.
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  The Root of All Evil? UK Channel4 Mon 9th Jan 8pm

  by ignored_one in

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  http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/c/can_you_believe_it/debates/rootofevil.html

  just wondering if anyone was planning to watch this tomorrow?.

  a lot of religious and right wing sites have already criticised it.

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  scotsman

  I don't have a nice glib answer for you FD, and although an atheist I confess that I thoroughly enjoy some of the irrationalities associated with many faiths. And I think a lot of brainwashed children on this board managed to free themselves from all sorts of nonsense, just as the religiously educated friends I know have also managed. When it comes down to it I don't seek a planet filled with atheists like me, you and Dawkins.

  and it was more interesting than "Big Brother"{Brits know what I mean}

  You were only watching it for Jodie, admit it.
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  The Root of All Evil? UK Channel4 Mon 9th Jan 8pm

  by ignored_one in

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  http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/c/can_you_believe_it/debates/rootofevil.html

  just wondering if anyone was planning to watch this tomorrow?.

  a lot of religious and right wing sites have already criticised it.

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  scotsman

  They are victims.

  My point isn't whether or not they are victimns but that in using such loaded language to their Rabbi school teacher Dawkins emotively condemns him as the perpetrator. It's that that I find unhelpful to a debate on faith schools - religious idealogues thrive on confrontation and their faith and resolve is ever strengthened.
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  The Root of All Evil? UK Channel4 Mon 9th Jan 8pm

  by ignored_one in

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  2. entertainment

  http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/c/can_you_believe_it/debates/rootofevil.html

  just wondering if anyone was planning to watch this tomorrow?.

  a lot of religious and right wing sites have already criticised it.

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  scotsman

  I watched it and again found him slightly embarrassing - although the flushed face and angry look in his eye were slightly less prevalent this week. Curiously it reminded me of being a Witness again when Witnesses appeared on TV and they were wack jobs and I'd groan internally.

  Dawkins isn't a wack job, I agree with most of his argument but his language is so loaded e.g. refering to children in religious shools as victims, and his manner so dogmatic that his message is slightly obscured. Liked his closing quote that a religion allows good people do bad things.

  And has anyone been to a "Hell House"? It looked fantastic!