but I will expose religions that are emotionally destructive to people.
JG, therein lies a problem, some of us might feel that the very nature of religion is emotionally destructive. Would us picketing your church make you stop and think?
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Radical Apostasy v Liberal Apostasy
by diamondblue1974 inin the wake of the 'dannygate' issue it made me think about the impact of apostasy and it various forms and on some level how it equates to the feminist movement and its development over the years.. initially, the radical feminist movement were and are the typical man hating, bra burning cross section who undoubtedly moved womens rights foward significantly and to some degree still do.
without the radical feminist movement, the likelihood of the liberal and more balanced feminist movements ever existing would have been uncertain if not improbable.
so indirectly the feminist movement owes a lot to those radicals who were out there burning bra's and linching men (i was joking about the last bit).
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Radical Apostasy v Liberal Apostasy
by diamondblue1974 inin the wake of the 'dannygate' issue it made me think about the impact of apostasy and it various forms and on some level how it equates to the feminist movement and its development over the years.. initially, the radical feminist movement were and are the typical man hating, bra burning cross section who undoubtedly moved womens rights foward significantly and to some degree still do.
without the radical feminist movement, the likelihood of the liberal and more balanced feminist movements ever existing would have been uncertain if not improbable.
so indirectly the feminist movement owes a lot to those radicals who were out there burning bra's and linching men (i was joking about the last bit).
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Scotsman, I believe it should be the other way around.
JG, I'm aware you do and if it's working for you pal, go for it.
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Ladies, is stubble on a man attractive?
by nicolaou inor does it mean he's just a lazy bugger who hasn't shaved?
my lady insists i'm nice and smooth but gets all hot and bothered over a bristly ewan mcgregor!
i mean, what's a guy to do?.
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smooth is nice but stubble's hot. Who doesn't like a bit of rough?!
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Radical Apostasy v Liberal Apostasy
by diamondblue1974 inin the wake of the 'dannygate' issue it made me think about the impact of apostasy and it various forms and on some level how it equates to the feminist movement and its development over the years.. initially, the radical feminist movement were and are the typical man hating, bra burning cross section who undoubtedly moved womens rights foward significantly and to some degree still do.
without the radical feminist movement, the likelihood of the liberal and more balanced feminist movements ever existing would have been uncertain if not improbable.
so indirectly the feminist movement owes a lot to those radicals who were out there burning bra's and linching men (i was joking about the last bit).
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It depends on your reason for leaving. If it's theological and you've found the 'Truth' elsewhere is makes sense to picket (like they used to do themselves). If it's sociological, because you've been ill treated in some way, I don't think the anger route is very productive either in helping yourself or helping others leave. They'll blame your anger on the actions of imperfect men, not the Faith itself, and you'll burn yourself nursing the wrath.
Knowledge and disappointment are the key to diluting the Witnesses faith. And dilution is all i expect as the collapse of the religion is a ridiculously unobtainable goal. It's not the wackiest or most harmful out there.
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Who else is tired of the Just Get Over It threads?
by sass_my_frass ini have started this thread so that every time i see a new one i can point out how old that idea is.
congratulations.
it's great that you have obviously been able to get out without being harmed in some way - really, i'm happy for you.
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I always thought that JWD was good because it had room for those that have got over it and those who are caught in the trauma. I've been on here for almost 5 years and the topics are all very repetitive but that's the nature of the beast. Don't like a thread? Don't read it or participate in it. But embracing the forum's diversity has worked for me.
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How ethical is it to sow DOUBT in the minds of sincere Jehovah's Witnesses?
by nicolaou inwe know that we can't always take the direct approach and we know that even a short, reasonable discussion is often out of the question with jw's we may love dearly so we often try to place a little doubt in their minds.
we want them to start questioning cherished beliefs.. is this fair of us?
are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
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I'm still with KK, being there for them if they express doubts is fine but attempting to damage their belief system is counter productive.
The apostates that helped me out were warm and charming and we never once discussed religion unless I raised it and even then they were never critical of some of my (in retrsopect) mind blowingly crazy ideas. And I think the seed of doubt is rarely sown, we can only water it if it already exists.
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How ethical is it to sow DOUBT in the minds of sincere Jehovah's Witnesses?
by nicolaou inwe know that we can't always take the direct approach and we know that even a short, reasonable discussion is often out of the question with jw's we may love dearly so we often try to place a little doubt in their minds.
we want them to start questioning cherished beliefs.. is this fair of us?
are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
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scotsman
Are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
Yes.
Is this fair of us?
That's harder to answer. I'd say it's human and that its fairness is moot.
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Public talk will be reduced to 30 minutes
by martinjw7 inhave you heard about a letter for all congregations announced next new change in wts politics?.
in letter is information that the time for the public talk will be reduced to 30 minutes.. does anyone have a copy?
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Can confirm that this is true. Letter came in at the weekend apparently.
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IT IS TIME FOR A___CONFESSION!
by Terry inthere is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.
(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.
) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.
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Terry, I'm an ex that got waylaid by Nellie on the road to Mandalay.
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IT IS TIME FOR A___CONFESSION!
by Terry inthere is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.
(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.
) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.
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I confess that belief and disbelief in god have always been irrelevant to me.