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  Personal Update

  by passwordprotected in

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  for those who haven't read 'my story' thus far, here are the links;.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/159554/1.ashx.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/159683/1.ashx.

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  scotsman

  Do we want any of this hanging over us, or is a clean break the solution?

  It's all about how you percieve it. Ignore it I'd say, and keep away from the people that feed you all the JW nonsense about witch hunts/dirt digging etc. it's now got nowt to do with you. Or rather it has much to do with you as you want. Might mean being coolish with your parents but the alternative is probably no contact at all.

  I'm not suggesting that the Alpha concept is a cult, just that you're not hasty. I've had 2 friends (nonJW) join then leave because of pressure to conform, but that was a couple of years ago and the group you attend might be quite different.

  "normal human behaviour" includes JW behaviour in my experience. "normal" runs the gamut of human behaviour.
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  Personal Update

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those who haven't read 'my story' thus far, here are the links;.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/159554/1.ashx.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/159683/1.ashx.

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  scotsman

  I'm sure Alpha are different from JWs but they still had the same feel to me. Initial visits to a KH are often warm and friendly etc etc...

  With regard to DAing, I'm not sure how you see yourself currently being connected to the name Jehovah if you've already left. You know that your hardcore family will read your DA in whatever way they wish - evidence of pride/arrogance or whatever that they've always seen in you and I never heard of any witness that DAed or was DFed that made me "think" while I was a JW. It was my old pals that had left, avoided being cut off and got back in touch with me after some time that aided my departure. Not through de-culting me, but through being normal, having moved on and being supportive and non-judgemental. If they had been DAed I would not have let them back in to my life when I did

  It's early days for you and I'm hoping that I don't sound patronising but I'm suggesting that you think ahead. It's nigh on impossible to send a clear message by DAing, they see what they're told to see.

  By letting your kids see that you can change your mind about something and still be a lving dad is more important than letting them know where they stand. Life, the world, is wonderfully messy and complicated and making a stand is sometimes not the best move.

  "Shut up and eff off Euan" yeah, i hear you!
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  Personal Update

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those who haven't read 'my story' thus far, here are the links;.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/159554/1.ashx.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/159683/1.ashx.

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  scotsman

  Sam and I have opened a book on how long before you are an atheist. I say within 6 months as you are a bright guy who moves fast and isn't scared of change :-)

  I'm with Paul

  And I''d therefore forget about DAing yourself. I'm not DAed, definitely involved in "wrong doing", and never look over my shoulder. One benefit is that other flakey JWs can still contact you before they've made the final break which would be harder for them if you DA.

  Intrigued by the Alpha choice. I've visited them and it had the feel of the JWs all over it - but then I'm a non believer and so my perspective is quite different from yours. We've got a newish church here called Destiny that's real happy clappy and expansionist but I haven't manged to visit them yet.

  Good luck!
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  Calling all ye Scottish ex-witnesses and your experiences

  by jambon1 in

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  well, what is your scottish experience and if you like, where are you from?

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  scotsman

  currently hiding from the elders here in this cave

  any spiders in that cave.......sounds a bit like robert the bruce :)

  Hope his heart isn't buried in a wee lead box....
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  Calling all ye Scottish ex-witnesses and your experiences

  by jambon1 in

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  well, what is your scottish experience and if you like, where are you from?

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  scotsman

  Don't think the Richmonds were loaded, but I do recall having a bit of a crush on one of them one Murrayfield...
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  Calling all ye Scottish ex-witnesses and your experiences

  by jambon1 in

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  well, what is your scottish experience and if you like, where are you from?

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  scotsman

  Euan, Muirhouse (Trainspotting deluxe) '71-'01/'02.

  Not dfed but definitely dumped.

  Life as a JW not exactly negative, life post JW very positive.
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  UK Population Booms

  by hamilcarr in

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  europe of the future: germany shrinks, france grows, but uk population booms britain to be biggest country in eu by 2060 .

  population falls predicted in many other countriesian traynor in brussels the guardian, wednesday august 27 2008 article historyeurope from space ... a satellite image shows the population hotspots.

  the eu is currently home to 495 million people.

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  scotsman

  slimboy, you really have got a dose of the pessimisms!
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  Europe must stand up to Islam NOW

  by B_Deserter in

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  2. experiences

  just read this today: .

  http://news.aol.co.uk/prayer-refusal-pupils-disciplined/article/20080704162734190726835 .

  an education authority is investigating claims that two school pupils were punished for refusing to kneel down and pray to allah during a religious education lesson.

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  scotsman

  I think the youth of the Parisian rioters was relevant. Just as the youth of those carrying knives is relevant. The race of the disenfranchised youth is irrelevant... unless we believe that we live in an inherently racist society and thereby all the evil deeds are being carried out by racial minorities who are suffering because of endemic racism.

  Just read the whole thread again - it's just like the Daily Mail lol.
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  Europe must stand up to Islam NOW

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just read this today: .

  http://news.aol.co.uk/prayer-refusal-pupils-disciplined/article/20080704162734190726835 .

  an education authority is investigating claims that two school pupils were punished for refusing to kneel down and pray to allah during a religious education lesson.

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  scotsman

  The fatal stabbings in London have been mainly and ALMOST completely carried out by black young people and yet the press will not point this out.

  If they're behviour was linked to their race it would be worth reporting, but I don't think that being black made them stab someone. Maybe you know better.
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  Watchtower MP3

  by scotsman in

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  2. bible

  just came across this.

  www.jw.org.

  just listening to the over enunciated contents gave me the dry boak..

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  scotsman

  Just came across this

  www.jw.org

  Just listening to the over enunciated Contents gave me the dry boak.