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  Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
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  the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

  "does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

  ‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

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  scotsman

  But Cofty you keep denying that the JWs are homophobic but admitting there are degrees of homophobia. Are the JWs not somewhere on the homophobic spectrum?
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  Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

  "does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

  ‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

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  scotsman

  I realise I just trivialised my own experience. Being asked if I was a poof by some Witnesses made me feel completely ill. And the long periods of depression I experienced in my twenties were related directly to the JW teachings on sexuality. Yes, other faiths have similar briefs but I wasn't a Mormon etc etc

  But hey, at least I wasn't being thrown of a building or beheaded.
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  Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

  "does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

  ‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

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  scotsman

  sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility.

  Really, you don't think the teaching of the WT sometimes leads to expressions of hostility? I found being referred to as a poof by some JWs a bit hostile.

  I'd agree that there are degrees of homophobia from ISIS to the Salvation Army. Maybe you find the homophobia of the JWs to be a more tasteful grey than ISIS black but I can't help but reflect that the gentle homophobia played a part in the suicide of the two gay (celibate) JWs I knew.
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  Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

  "does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

  ‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

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  scotsman

  Thanks SBF.
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  Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

  "does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

  ‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

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  scotsman

  I'm a self identified gay man and I'd describe the Bible, the JWs and their literature as homophobic.
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  Shooting in the foot (homophobic video)

  by Syme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the newly released homophobic video by the wts, it gets clearer that those people can't stop shooting themselves in the foot.

  they are already under examination and de facto trial by the australian committee; more and more people and officials in western democracies inquire into their abusive tactics and put them under the microscope, and what do they do?

  they release a video which confirms those worries.

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  scotsman

  Nothing wrong with struggling to understand another's perspective, it shows effort, but it's probably more productive not to jump to conclusions, start calling names or use inflammatory language while in the process of learning.

  I'm not calling anyone names or using inflammatory language but I'm quite at ease with anyone labelling the JWs homophobic, it was certainly my experience. I also understand why some people don't understand the reaction to the cartoon and keep labelling it an over-reaction.
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  Shooting in the foot (homophobic video)

  by Syme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the newly released homophobic video by the wts, it gets clearer that those people can't stop shooting themselves in the foot.

  they are already under examination and de facto trial by the australian committee; more and more people and officials in western democracies inquire into their abusive tactics and put them under the microscope, and what do they do?

  they release a video which confirms those worries.

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  scotsman

  It never surprises me that different people perceive the same thing differently. Just as it never surprises me that majorities struggle to understand minorities's perspectives. Such is life.
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  Shooting in the foot (homophobic video)

  by Syme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the newly released homophobic video by the wts, it gets clearer that those people can't stop shooting themselves in the foot.

  they are already under examination and de facto trial by the australian committee; more and more people and officials in western democracies inquire into their abusive tactics and put them under the microscope, and what do they do?

  they release a video which confirms those worries.

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  scotsman

  Being a young gay JW it didn't feel like merely like "disapproval". After hearing about someone being dfed for homosexuality my mother said she would rather her child was dead than a homosexual.

  These seemingly innocuous cartoons will feed the mindset that permits parents to say these things, after all a dead child gets resurrected.

  And I think that some of the JWs will be affected by the adverse publicity. My good friend eventually left the JWs because she couldn't stand the way her gay sibling and I were treated.
  
  
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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  scotsman

  I was in Edinburgh yesterday. Thought you had gone AWOL from the forum.

  I'm not the most frequent poster but the gay threads always warm my heart. Too bad this thread wasn't a day earlier, maybe another time.
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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  scotsman

  When are you coming to Edinburgh for that pint Cofty?