Posts by unbaptized

39

Question, What will happen to the earth and the Animals?

by unbaptized in

question, if everyone who professes to be christian are going to heaven to rule as priest with jesus, who will be our subjects on earth?

can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject..

unbaptized

Hello Skyking,

When I spoke regarding the Third Heaven, I was speaking of Paul and the other anointed brothers, sisters who have the Heavenly hope. I know that other religions teach doctrine with similarities to the Holy Bible and the Gospel od Jesus Christ, but they are not inspired by the God of the Hebrews and Christians. I'm not closed minded about other doctrines not related to the Holy Bible, but I feel confident that the Holy Bible is all a man needs to be fully equiped to do God's will. 2Tim 3:14-16

To me Skyking, a lot of Jehovah's anointed followers had experienced a Third Heaven experience. For example, King David stated that he would not raise his hand against the anointed of Jehovah even though God gave him the opportunity to fight back. King David being in a very close relationship with God knew that it was Jehovah who appointed Saul and it should be Jehovah who removes him. His trust and relationship with God was that powerful to him, it was like Jehovah was right there with David. The same thing goes for Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph. They all experienced Third Heaven like events, which directed them and taught them how they should act and live. The scriptures even says that Moses spoke face to face with God. But we know Moses did not really see God physically, but he say God from a Third Heaven prospective.

39

Question, What will happen to the earth and the Animals?

by unbaptized in

question, if everyone who professes to be christian are going to heaven to rule as priest with jesus, who will be our subjects on earth?

can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject..

unbaptized

Skyking, I will be back to answer the other questions later on today. I have not forgotten.

Peace

39

Question, What will happen to the earth and the Animals?

by unbaptized in

question, if everyone who professes to be christian are going to heaven to rule as priest with jesus, who will be our subjects on earth?

can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject..

unbaptized

Hello Skyking,

I apologize for not getting back to you as soon as I could, I was indisposed at the time.

First I have a question regarding the third Heaven, please show me another scripture that backs the theory that there's a literal third Heaven. Because if there is then they someone else would have written it down in the scriptures besides Paul.

In answering your question regarding Heaven. First of all there is a Heavenly abode where Jehovah, Jesus and the angelic beings reside.

Second there is the Heavenly expanse where the sun, moon and stars occupy. The scriptures also state that the birds fly around in the Heavens.

Now the Third Heaven is an experience only experienced by the anointed of Jehovah because they are in full union with the Christ and Jehovah God. (Ephesians 1:3, 2:6) Some of the anointed experienced things beyond a normal humans comprehension. Paul stated at Ephesians 2:6, that those in union with Christ were raised up together and seated together in the Heavenly places. If that's so, then the anointed of Jehovah already are full aware of their position in Heaven. The Apostle Paul was still living when he wrote this scripture, so he knew in advance that he had a place in the Heavens. He could envision himself there in Heaven, although he was still on the earth. Ephesians 2:22, states that the anointed in union with the Christ are being built up into a place where God's spirit can dwell, which could be constituted as the Third Heaven. Only the anointed experiences this event due to their relationship with Jehovah. Also if you compare John's account in Revelations 1:10, he states that by inspiration he had been taken to see the Lords day, which is liken to a Third Heaven position. Anointed followers in union with Jesus will experience this in body out of body experiences, that's why people can't understand how the anointing process works. That's why it's a mystery to some.

26

Two Classes?

by VanillaMocha73 in

so i am going through the bible from a christian perspective this time and then going back to the reasoning book to figure out how on earth the jws ever came up with the stuff they did.

it is not like i am a n00bi3 - i was raised jw, pioneered, went to pio school, studied diligently for years, zealous, etc.. .

where do they come up with the two classes - one going to heaven and one not?

unbaptized

Hello Narkissos,

Nice to me you!

If those with an earthly hope aren't chosen, not anointed, but chosen how are they going to be selected to survive?

39

Question, What will happen to the earth and the Animals?

by unbaptized in

question, if everyone who professes to be christian are going to heaven to rule as priest with jesus, who will be our subjects on earth?

can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject..

unbaptized

Skyking,

Could you list some of those scriptures for me?

26

Two Classes?

by VanillaMocha73 in

so i am going through the bible from a christian perspective this time and then going back to the reasoning book to figure out how on earth the jws ever came up with the stuff they did.

it is not like i am a n00bi3 - i was raised jw, pioneered, went to pio school, studied diligently for years, zealous, etc.. .

where do they come up with the two classes - one going to heaven and one not?

unbaptized

Hello Hamsterbait,

No ones twisting the scriptures, we all have bible's so we can all agree or refute a comment. All I'm saying is let's let God do the choosing and accept whatever gift he chooses to give us in connection with his will. Remember it is the Almighty God who does the anointing and the choosing. Romans 9:14,18

If you were not called be an anointed one, then you should continue to serve and enjoy the blessing that he bestows upon you.

That's all I'm trying to say!!!

26

Two Classes?

by VanillaMocha73 in

so i am going through the bible from a christian perspective this time and then going back to the reasoning book to figure out how on earth the jws ever came up with the stuff they did.

it is not like i am a n00bi3 - i was raised jw, pioneered, went to pio school, studied diligently for years, zealous, etc.. .

where do they come up with the two classes - one going to heaven and one not?

unbaptized

Hello Star,

I understand your reasoning, but I have to disagree on some of the comments made. I respect your beliefs though, since none of us are able to judge.

I agree that the ancient Jewish nation had a blessed relationship with the creator and if it was not for them we would not know God at all.

But I disagree with the statement that they will be restored as a special nation serving the Almighty God. That nation as a whole rejected the corner stone that was sent to them for a stumbling. They rejected the foundation of the new faith which is Jesus Christ. The scriptures state that although Israel is like the sand of the sea, only a remnant would be spared after God's judgement. Isaiah 10:21, 22, Romans 9:1-33, Romans 10:1-21

That small remnant was the jews that received God's anointing of Holy Spirit during the festival of the Pentecost in 33 CE. Acts 2:1-4

Also the Apostle Paul stated that just because you were born a Jew does not mean you really are chosen. He stated that Isaac's wife bore Esau and Jacob and chose Jacob while yet was still in the womb of his mother. Paul also said that Jacob was chosen not because he was the best or the first or because of his works. The Almighty God chose him because he wanted to choose him. Romans 9:6-13

39

Question, What will happen to the earth and the Animals?

by unbaptized in

question, if everyone who professes to be christian are going to heaven to rule as priest with jesus, who will be our subjects on earth?

can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject..

unbaptized

Hello Mikeus,

I understand what you are saying about a new Heaven and a new Earth. I also understand that christians are going to Heaven and share the rulership with the Christ. But what I do not understand is who will they be ruling on earth since there won't be any humans on earth to rule only animals. Wicked mankind is supposed to be cut off from life and the righteous is supposed to all go to Heaven, then who will reside on the earth?

39

Question, What will happen to the earth and the Animals?

by unbaptized in

question, if everyone who professes to be christian are going to heaven to rule as priest with jesus, who will be our subjects on earth?

can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject..

unbaptized

Question, If everyone who professes to be christian are going to Heaven to rule as priest with Jesus, who will be our subjects on earth? Can someone pleasee shed some light on this subject.

26

Two Classes?

by VanillaMocha73 in

so i am going through the bible from a christian perspective this time and then going back to the reasoning book to figure out how on earth the jws ever came up with the stuff they did.

it is not like i am a n00bi3 - i was raised jw, pioneered, went to pio school, studied diligently for years, zealous, etc.. .

where do they come up with the two classes - one going to heaven and one not?

unbaptized

Zack & Lilly,

Unfortunately my comment was taken out of context. I am sorry you did not understand my point. I don't recall Jesus ever saying that the physical Israel was being restored on earth. I know of spiritual Israel being established in Heaven, but I don't see were earthly Israel will be restored.

What is this thing with everyone wanting to go to Heaven. If everyone becomes priest and kings in Heaven then who will be subjects the animals?

So I guess if everyone's going to Heaven to become priest, then it will be their duty to pray on the behalf of the animal sins, since the animals will be the only creatures left on the planet. The earth will still be in existence to my knowledge, so I guess Walt Disney's prophecy about talking animals and fish was correct. The cartoons are correct!! Also I believe the dinosaurs will be resurected to animal life on earth and the apelike creatures in a quest to reinvent fire.